darkdc2teg

I have compleated the swap and everything looks perfect. Its nice and neat. I ordered a complete obd2 B16B civic type r swap to drop in my 2000 honda civic SI. I pluged the jdm b16b ecu into my stock b16a2 harness already in my car and connected the entire harness to the b16b engine. the only difference's I noticed was the IAT sensor is not in the intake tube it is in the intake mani runner so i guess i just need to cut the factory IAT plug off and extend it to reach the sensor on the intake manifold. There was no EVAP solenoid bolted to the fuel rail of the type r engine...? do I need to hook it back up to the harness and EVAP canister even tho the CTR dosent run it that way or just not run it? There is one extra plug on the usdm harness in the corner of the trans and the head... 4 plugs. the jdm motor only has three sensors. only 3 plugs in that spot on the jdm harness. I dont want any CEL's on when im done. also there is no CKP sensor to plug the harness into????? The type r distributor kicks just a little bit of spark with me using my factory engine harness and jdm obd2 ecu. If I put my old factory b16a2 distributor on the new B16B I get NO spark at all! What is the difference between the two dizzys? I know the b16a2 runns a CKP sensor to give reffrence to the dizzy. Where does the type r dizzy get its reffrence? I do get a little spark with the type r dizzy... with a shitty cap and rotor on it.... but the spark is not even close to hot enough. Everything is pretty much done and went together great! If any of you have done this swap please help. I need my car back running. I didnt know it would be a hassle to put a jdm obd2 CTR engine into a usdm obd2 civic SI. Thanx for your help.

darkdc2teg

I can post clean and clear pics of anything you may want to see in order to help me out. Just lmk. I need my car back running bad I didnt think this swap would take long to do. I did it all in two days and was expecting it to just run fine. Bummer. Thanx alot for you guys help.

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u are right about the IAT sensor. easy fix. i do not know why u are not getting spark at the dizzy. are all of your ground wires on? also, you can BYPASS the CKP sensor (just google search it.) or, you can put an OBD2 oil pump onto the motor and use that sensor. Did u try running the car on your stock B16A2 ECU?

darkdc2teg

Yeah I did try it with the b16a2 ecu too. I do get spark with the type r dizzy on b16b ecu its just really weak due to the shity condition of the cap and rotor button from the jdm motor company. Problem is I cant find a cap and rotor button to fit the jdm dizzy... Where can I find one everyone tells me somewhere to go but then they just tell me somewhere else to go... Ha. the b16a2 dizzy cap is just a hair to small to fit the jdm dizzy. seems like i need to use the jdm dizzy but can only buy caps to fit the us model. Thanx.

darkdc2teg

Common nobody has put a CTR in an SI? I really need my car back running. I was told this swap was simple as puttin a b16a2 back in. Id pay for the FEW pointers I need. PLEASE HELP! Where can I buy a JDM b16b type r distributor cap and rotor????? Id give 100 bucks for one rite now!!!!!

SickSi99

Get in touch with someone from Hmotorsonline.com They can probably point you in the right direction. But yeah I bypassed the crankshaft fluctuation sensor on my JDM B16A when I swapped into my 99 SI. A few wires soldered together at the ECU.

Deetz

That dizzy is the same as any B18C5 ITR. Any Acura dealer can help with a cap and rotor

darkdc2teg

Thanx ill check on these leads rite now....

darkdc2teg

The B18C5 is the USDM ITR engine rite? B18C is the JDM version...?

darkdc2teg

Do i still need to do the CKP sensor bypass if im using the JDM type r obd2 ecu? Seems to me like the ECU bypasses it itself.??? The type r dizzy sparks a little just not enough rite now. The USDM dizzy that uses the CKP sensor dosent spark AT ALL with either ecu. So I take it I cant use the USDM dizzy at all on the B16B swap.

sk8shorty012

iTrader: (3)

With a JDM ECU you don't need to bypass the CKF sensor.

Check out this page:

http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

darkdc2teg

A pic for you guys.

darkdc2teg

Thanks short012 I didn't think so. I'll check ur link out when I get to my laptop. I really appreciate everybodys help.

darkdc2teg

I checked the link for the CKF sensor trick but like you said I dont need to do it because I bought the type r ecu with the swap. Keeping it simple what would I have to do to my factory USDM engine harness to make it work and communicate properly between the jdm obd2 ecu and the obd2 jdm type r engine? Everything is either factory JDM or factory USDM... NO OTHER MODS AT ALL. If I find a new jdm dizzy cap and rotor will my car just crank and run????? Is that all I need since I bought the COMPLETE b16b swap w/ecu?

canadaek

did you get the harness with the b16b ? maybe try using it instead of the usdm one check the wire's on both dizzy plugs are they in the same location ? same number of wire's ?

darkdc2teg

There are 9 wires on the jdm harness and 8 on the usdm harness. Not to mention jdm engine depot sent me a b16b w/5spd lsd and its got an automatic harness all cliped on it....(Witch I thought was pretty ****ed up) so I dont even have a choice of wether or not to use it cuz I cant. The ecu plugs dont even match the b16b ecu. (someone swiped the type r harness before I got my swap). Besides all the lenghts would be off if I used the jdm harness and would look really crappy. I know there is a way to use the usdm harness in this situation.

sk8shorty012

iTrader: (3)

I'd try substituting a good know working USDM B-Series distributor.

You only need compression (air), fuel and spark to get an engine to run.

You can smell the fuel if the injectors are firing and it doesn't seem to be a compression issue so it has to do with spark obviously. Good ol' process of elimination.

darkdc2teg

I did substitute a known good usdm b16 dizzy... no spark... with either ecu. The usdm harness in the car only has 8 wires going to the dizzy plug. The jdm harness that I got with the swap but cant use has 9 wires going to it so I see now that the connector im using will have to be pinned with a wire run to the connector at the ecu. Only way i see around it....That missing wire has somthing major to do with the b16b timming. CKP sensor is in the type r dizzy i guess. I will update as soon as I get that wire run.

sk8shorty012

iTrader: (3)

See the attached file.

There's nine wires. The common reason for 8 vs. 9 wires is the #9 in that file, the vehicle speed sensor wire which is not necessary for some applications. Either way, if you make sure that the other 8 wires are hooked up correctly, the car will start.

darkdc2teg

Hel yeah dude perfect timing!!! I just come back in from tracking that blue wire and shure enough its not there but it would go to the drivers side not the pass side... Ha! I was freakin...lol So yes all other 8 wires are in place and rite on the usdm harness. so basicly your sayin that I just need to get a usdm b18c5 dizzy cap and rotor and my car should run rite with cels? I should be able to get them from acura tomarrow.

darkdc2teg

Just found out my stock ecu is obd2b, my jdm type r ecu is obd2b, The harness that came on my b16b swap was obd2a... Does this propose any prob to any of yall thats gonna interfere with the dizzy communicating with my obd2b type r ecu? figured id better mention that. Are obd2a dizzys interchangable with obd2b dizzys? If they are then theres no problem I guess. lmk.

dcteg513

the factory si harness , dizzy should work inlinefour.com has ctr caps and buttons try them convert ecu to obd1 use p28 chipped and tuned for your ctr

darkdc2teg

So no one see's any prob with running a jdm ecu and a matching jdm motor with a usdm si harness? Imma order my dizzy parts today and try it. Ill update later.

sk8shorty012

iTrader: (3)

As long as everything plugs in and the ecu matches the motor, you'll be okay.

silverbullet9626

if u have to pass emissions u r effed if u r trying to use the jdm ecu it wont read us scanner tools i found this out the hard way. i have the b16a jdm engine in my 96 dx u r lucky u dont have all the problems i have. i ended up having ckf, sec o2, vtps, and evap (because my car doesnt have it yours does). now i have to find the rarest of ecu's the p30-ao1/ao2 to end this 2 year nightmare. all u should have to do is either change the oil pumpand put on the ckf like i did or do the trick. i dont think the jdm engine has the evap on the motor not sure on that one havent got a straight answer yet. you will have to get a vtps that is why u have a fourth plug on your usdm harness.