nabyar

Heh, I never thought i'd EVER post here, but here it goes...

I originaly had a '90 talon TSi. Had a few mods on it and it was fairly quick for how little I dumped into it, and how much I bought it for. ($1,900 for 100,000 on the clock and it had 3" catback n1 on it.) Anyway, this car got it's frame bent out of my own stupidity (going way too fast on a curvy road on stock suspension=ditch.)

So I ended up buying a '90 laser RS turbo with a bad head. I had a full engine laying around out of the talon so it was no problem getting this car running for only $500 (what I paid for it, plus a few misc parts like a HG, ARP head studs, etc). So now i'm in the position where i'm parting out the talon and gonna sell the laser for atleast $2,500 -- plus my job .. so by the time everything is said and done, i'll have around $3,500 laying around.

So what are my options in the honda world? Sure DSM's can be reliable if YOU take care of them the right way, but you never know when the previous owner has beat it to hell and back.

I'm thinking an EG hatch 'cause del sol's aren't quite my thing, but I was wondering if I could possibly by a EG hatch with no motor or something and swap a decently built engine in, then go turbo down the road. I know this thing will never make as much power as a dsm for so cheap, but I want the realibility, and some of the EG hatches on here look plain SICK, so props to you guys.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. (Sorry for the long post.)

explosive

You're going to need to get a hatch. I know that in my area, you can't find a del Sol for $3500 that isn't in **** poor shape. If I were you, I would do what you said, buy a hatch for like $500 with a blown engine and a straight body, put in a nice engine and right away you have a really nice, dependable ride with a little speed.

Tad

ok i'm not sure how it is out there,
but you cant get a hatch with a straight body out here for 500bux, engine or no engine.

these cars are old, and hondas metal is kinda soft, so you're going to have dings.

i'd say get one with a blown engine, and expect not perfect paint, and parkinglot dings.
but dont get anything with any actual collision damage(minor or major).

then do a d16z6 turbo setup,
you can run 13's or low 14's with this setup easily.

oh but you wont have too much leftover for looks, so dont blow all your money on wheels and suspension. get some nice 15's, si wheels are good and cheap.
and just drop it on some hr springs or gc's or something. shocks .. ok thats a whole nother story.

but yeah you "should" be able to do this all for around 3500 but you wont have much room to spare

Andres-eh2

If i were you, this is how i would do it.

EG Shell. ~$1000
-D16z6 Swap (meanwhile) ~$400
-Full Coilover Suspension ~$950
-Wheels ~$450
-Cosmetic Accessories
-Intake ~$40

This way you have an all around car, ready for a b-series swap or whatver.

simplegreenmachine

shell-1000
D16z6-400
homemade turbo kit-1000
wheels-450
exhaust 250
and the rest to lower it?

TorganFM

Get a coupe not a hatch!
I have a question too: How do I get rid of this trial user **** and the 5 post limit per 24 hours?

CleenSi

get a 88-91 240 sx nissan, then swap a sr20det=fast car

nabyar

Hmm I'm not about looks though. Most DSM owners aren't. Personally if the body has a couple dings it's no biggie. Wheels? Blah.. those can come down the road. I'll definitely be lowered though.

What about finding a used b18 block and a used b16 head? Go ls/vtec with the bottle.. would that probably get me 13's? Alot of my friends with d16 powered EG's seem to like the d16 turbo which is definitely an option because the engines are so cheap.

Tad

the lsvtec with bottle route could work,
but its sketchy, I'd say you could run into more problems with that than a turbo.

and it could easily be more expensive, AND if you dont build the motor you could waste it all with that bottle.

and dont discount wheels on eg's,
remember these cars come with 13x5" wheels
looks aside, that can be just plain unsafe if the car is really high powered.
15's are cheap, you should be able to get a 15" wheel/tire package for around 6-700bux. or get some used wheels for even cheaper, wrap em with some good tires, and ur rollin!

whoDAT

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ok guy

RangerDan

3500 hundred will get you a decent 5.0

But if you really want a hatch 3500 will get you a quick ride if everything falls into place.

nabyar

Yeah but like alot of people on here say.. when you turbo a d16 there is a point when you have to stop turning up the boost. This is why an ls/vtec on the bottle would be good for a little while then down the road turbo it.

Hell I dunno.. I might just stick to my 4g63 that can make 400hp on stock internals.

Tad

yeah, you cant run too much boost.
but you can run a good ammount,

and there are things you can do aside from internals to help out, like a thinner head gasket for example, and tuning of course.

also, I should note that I'm trying to build a hatch, and I have 3300, and I already have an interior to use, suspension, and wheels..

and i'm having trouble pulling it off,

just something to think about.

hondapwr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nabyar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah but like alot of people on here say.. when you turbo a d16 there is a point when you have to stop turning up the boost. This is why an ls/vtec on the bottle would be good for a little while then down the road turbo it.

Hell I dunno.. I might just stick to my 4g63 that can make 400hp on stock internals. </TD></TR></TABLE>

400hp on stock internals... I thought you wanted reliability.. hehe

Here's an option no one's mentioned: Get a B18A from an old Integra and boost it later to 220HP with a homemade turbo kit.

nabyar

Yeah that'd be a nice idea. I'm definitely going for a used motor because I know these engines have a good realibility factor, so even something in the 80,000 mile range would hold up nicely. My talon held up damn well for how much I abused it, however I put forth 105% to maintain it.

I'm sure I could find a hatch for cheap though.. Hell, i'm gonna strip the interior anyway to make it lighter. Thats half the advantage alot of honda's have. I guess once I have the money i'll look around. Any more suggestions are welcome and thanks for the info guys.

jeremyEG

cx or vx hatch with blown motor. most likely will have an OK body. dings and scratches but nothing major. for about 1000

on your budget id go with a z6 with either junkyard turbo set up or if you can find an apexi kit used for cheap do that.

3500 isnt really that much man. that alrady would be at least 3500 if you want it reliable.

maybee you should find a crx or 4th gen hatch and drop a b16 or ls swap into it and turbo later down the road when you can afford to. 5000 would make your options a whole lot broader.

bartek_b

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGEESIX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If i were you, this is how i would do it.

EG Shell. ~$1000
-D16z6 Swap (meanwhile) ~$400
-Full Coilover Suspension ~$950
-Wheels ~$450
-Cosmetic Accessories
-Intake ~$40

This way you have an all around car, ready for a b-series swap or whatver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

RU_213

engine;b18c1 eg vx its lighter your going to spend more money on going w/ smaller eng.
your going to want more power, trust me.Your going to swap into a c1 later on.the c1's are fast even stock and reliable its by far better for what u want .i have the same project in mind.but its up to u. my suggestion.

u0f

you should be able to find a 92-95 hatch for less than 1000 around here. a guy i know sold a 94 integra with 180k running in pretty good condition for 2000.

CleenSi

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ok guy </TD></TR></TABLE>

dam haters. im no nissan fan but i rode in one its actually pretty fast.

SOHC_MShue

like everybody else said. I'd find a cheap eg hatchback or maybe even crx which would be cheaper and faster. Then go with a d16z6 and a nice suspension and some nice wheels. Then turbo it later on.

hondapwr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like everybody else said. I'd find a cheap eg hatchback or maybe even crx which would be cheaper and faster. Then go with a d16z6 and a nice suspension and some nice wheels. Then turbo it later on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I disagree. Either keep the stock motor until you can get a D16Z6 turbo, or go B-Series. The D16Z6 and D16Y8 are slow dogs in normally aspirated form, and really not worth the time or effort. They're not as reliable or as powerful as a B-Series motor, bottom line.