transmission fluid
 

when changing the transmission fluid, what kind and weight oil/trans fluid do you suggest. i'm trying to get rid of the dreaded 3rd gear notchiness. i've heard a few suggestions...none seem good. in the manual, it suggests that if changing fluid to a non honda fluid to use 10w-30 or 10w-40 motor oil. so when changing, the fluid, what would anyone recommend?

now back when i had my wrx i had a problem with gear grinding myself, so i did a "cocktail" which i dont really know how well it will work on the hondas, but it consisted of HD gear oil and a 1 quart of Redline HD shockproof which is as thick as pudding. That fixed everything perfectly. Like i said though i dont know how well it will work on the hondas.

Re: (bigb996)
 

^^^horrible idea for honda's

Honda's use a much lighter tranny lubricant.. similar in consistency to motor oil more than gear oil. Honda MTF is the way to go.. they even redeveloped the formula recently.. only other thing I'd use is Royal Purple Syncromax or something along those lines.. alot of guys like the GM syncromesh fluid too..

your owner's manual states: 10w30 Motor oil should only be used in an emergency/temporarily... it doesn't suggest it at all.. in fact the manual discourages it.. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif

Re: (IT GUY)
 

If you go the honda route make sure the pn is 08798-9031 not 9016. They tried to sell me the old stuff. My dealership did not have any of the new number.

gm syncrhomesh > new honda mtf

I've tried both, syncromesh does wonders for honda trannys

Re: (1986)
 

^^^ You've tried both in a car that is only a year old? We're not talking about b-series cable trannies that have been laying in a junkyard in japan... this is brand new factory stuff..

Re: (IT GUY)
 

Is the tranny fluid the reason for the 3rd gear problem? ive had problems with 3rd a few times (notchy) but that was because i didnt put the clutch all the way in before shifting out of 2nd.

Re: (IT GUY)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^ You've tried both in a car that is only a year old? We're not talking about b-series cable trannies that have been laying in a junkyard in japan... this is brand new factory stuff.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I loved my B-series, it was my friend.

Re: (pampass_pmw)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic1234 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the tranny fluid the reason for the 3rd gear problem? ive had problems with 3rd a few times (notchy) but that was because i didnt put the clutch all the way in before shifting out of 2nd. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It is mostly due to not pushing the clutch in all the way.. lol.. Honda posted a bulletin about our cars in low temperatures having notchy trannys and suggested the new MTF.. I just think they're not ready to admit that it's in all temperatures.. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif I switched to the new MTF after 5k.. even after that little bit of mileage I had noticed the notchiness or whatever.. new MTF did the trick for me.. this past 5k miles have been smooth as silk..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pampass_pmw &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I loved my B-series, it was my friend.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I still love my B-series.. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
can't wait to actually drive my hatch again.. lol

Re: (IT GUY)
 

gotcha!... usually in my car if there is some kind of problem its the short between the steering wheel and the seat https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

is there a certain weight of the syncromesh? or is it all the same?

Re: (07galaxygrey4dr)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 07galaxygrey4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a certain weight of the syncromesh? or is it all the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure there is, all oil has some weight classification, just not sure what the syncromesh is.
I have Royal Purple Synchromax in mine. I noticed a major improvement over the stock fluid. Definitely smoother.
However, after I put it in, I found this on the Royal Purple website:
http://www.royalpurple.com/techa/tranxref.html

If you scroll down to Honda/Acura, it says use Honda MTF, SAE 10W 30, or XPR 5W 30.
I'd say if you went with the 10W 30 or Syncromax you'd be fine. The XPR 5W 30 it says is more for race applications.

Re: (will_rex)
 

So.. Honda tells you to only use motor oil as a temporary substitute for MTF

Royal Purple tells you to use motor oil instead of Honda MTF...

hmmm... I'd be inclined to believe Honda

Motor oil does not equal tranny fluid...

Syncromax, Syncromesh, etc... yea sure, run it all day long... it's made to lube transmissions.. motor oil isn't

Re: (IT GUY)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^ You've tried both in a car that is only a year old? We're not talking about b-series cable trannies that have been laying in a junkyard in japan... this is brand new factory stuff.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I actually own a 2005 rsx type-s. If you go to clubrsx.com there is a whole 100 page petition of owners complaining about grind/notchy problems and yes even owners with less than 5k's on there cars reported into the petition also. So definately not driver error imo. The rsx has a 6-speed tranny also, search gm syncromesh through honda-tech, good stuff. I was hesitant to put the gm syncromesh in my car at first thats why i went with the new oem honda mtf that i bought from the honda dealership. But i found that the oem mtf is too thin, fine for the first few thousand clicks a then turns to shit. Went to the acura dealership and they use gm syncromesh for most of their cars. I dont think i am ever going back to honda mtf.

I herd amsoil is good too if u dont want to use gm syncromesh.

GMSM will start to show some notchiness only after about 5k miles. does not last as long as honda MTF. use the new stuff from honda, comes with a white cap. good shit.

Re: (fish22)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fish22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GMSM will start to show some notchiness only after about 5k miles. does not last as long as honda MTF. use the new stuff from honda, comes with a white cap. good shit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've got over 6K on my Royal Purple with no signs of diminishing perfomance. Still buttery smooth https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Re: (will_rex)
 

my uncle and i put whale sperm in my tranny you guys should all go out and get some and put it in your car.. stuff is awesome.

Re: transmission fluid (07galaxygrey4dr)
 

Royal purple syncromesh FTW https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (IT GUY)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So.. Honda tells you to only use motor oil as a temporary substitute for MTF

Royal Purple tells you to use motor oil instead of Honda MTF...

hmmm... I'd be inclined to believe Honda

Motor oil does not equal tranny fluid...

Syncromax, Syncromesh, etc... yea sure, run it all day long... it's made to lube transmissions.. motor oil isn't </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, its true Royal purple does recommend to use 5w30 motor oil

awesome...i'm still confused. syncromesh it is. if anyone knows of anyproblem related to using it speak now.

Re: (07galaxygrey4dr)
 

run it....

Re: transmission fluid (07galaxygrey4dr)
 

I had the 3rd gear issue on my Honda as well. I changed to the newer Honda HD MTF and all my problems went away. In addition, using Honda MTF ensures no warranty issues.