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FG_Coupe 04-09-2008 07:49 PM

Other Mods for k20z3
 
Hey wassup guys!!! i was just wonderin if there's any other mods i can do to gain a little more power...so far this is what i have done to my car....

1. DC Sports Race Header
2. AEM Cold Air Intake System
3. Apex'i N1 Exhaust
4. Hondata Manifold Gasket
5. Hondata Reflash
6. DR 16 wheels with Falken azenis tires

If there's anything you can suggest please let me know!!! thanks!!!

24boosted 04-09-2008 07:59 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (FG_Coupe)
 
Lighter wheels or cams.

i-VTEC_DOHC 04-09-2008 09:23 PM

buddy club spec IV race cams.

u need advanced valvetrain to run them. but worth every penny imo. nothin sounds better than vtec w/ valvetrain and cams =]]

Nighthawk R18 04-09-2008 09:23 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (24boosted)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 24boosted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lighter wheels or cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or what this guy has^

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif


Modified by Nighthawk R18 at 2:02 AM 4/10/2008

black92DA 04-09-2008 10:14 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (Nighthawk R18)
 
port and polished head, cams with valvetrain, and pistons

RICO_ 04-10-2008 02:11 AM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (black92DA)
 
Comptech S/C. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

siboii08 04-10-2008 04:46 AM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (RICO_)
 
320 mm Turbines.. with a upgraded blowoff valve.. And octaine booster. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

100miles+ 04-10-2008 10:12 AM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (siboii08)
 
weight reduction

take out spare

back seats

door panels

floor mats

that thing that lets you get to the spare

radio

stuff out your glove box

and finally dont let any fat chicks in the car https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

SIVIC 3 04-10-2008 10:35 AM

my vote also cams....

ChargedSI 04-10-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (FG_Coupe)
 
You live in California. If you EVER plan on passing smog, you can forget about cams, at least until Hondata releases a programmable fuel tuning application for our car. Even then, you still may not be able to fuel tune it with cams to pass smog.

You want kick up the HP and still stay smog legal, then the Comptech SC is the best way to go in my opinion. The Stage I supercharger is CARB certified in CA. Once Hondata releases the fuel tuning application you can kick-up the boost with a smaller pulley. If you need to smog after you increase the boost, you only need to put the stage I pulley back on and re-tune. Having a CARB sticker is worth it's weight in Platinum.

Yes, I know the DC race header is not smog legal either, but replacing a header is a lot easier than replacing cams if you have to smog your car.

24boosted 04-15-2008 04:26 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (Nighthawk R18)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nighthawk R18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

or what this guy has^

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

What? I'm stock. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Greg50Lt 04-15-2008 05:03 PM

so what is the general price for a set of cams and the valve train to go along with it.

Tokyosmash! 04-15-2008 05:17 PM

Re: (Greg50Lt)
 
A better header and intake

i-VTEC_DOHC 04-15-2008 06:46 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (ChargedSI)
 
your thinkin about smog when u dont have to wory about it for 4 years.

i-VTEC_DOHC 04-15-2008 06:47 PM

Re: (Greg50Lt)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greg50Lt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what is the general price for a set of cams and the valve train to go along with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
$1200+

Greg50Lt 04-17-2008 05:19 PM

damn 1200+ what are the numbers you pull with I/H/E and the valvetrain/cam

i-VTEC_DOHC 04-17-2008 06:11 PM

oh i dont have them, but i figure since the cams are 964 bucks, valves.. maybe 150-200, then u need to springs, etc. lol

Kidnkorner 04-17-2008 07:27 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (FG_Coupe)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FG_Coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey wassup guys!!! i was just wonderin if there's any other mods i can do to gain a little more power...so far this is what i have done to my car....

1. DC Sports Race Header
2. AEM Cold Air Intake System
3. Apex'i N1 Exhaust
4. Hondata Manifold Gasket
5. Hondata Reflash
6. DR 16 wheels with Falken azenis tires
7. Skunk2 Pro C Coilovers

If there's anything you can suggest please let me know!!! thanks!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Greg50Lt 04-19-2008 06:48 AM

^^ some susp work would be good. but if ur looking raw power then get the cam set up. does anyone have a cam set up with the valvetrain?? if so what are there numbers.

Kidnkorner 04-19-2008 09:57 AM

Re: (Greg50Lt)
 
Skunk 2 Stage 1 Cams 305-05-0220 $546.26 shipped
Skunk 2 Springs 311-05-0380 $206.40 shipped
Titanium retainers 308-05-0410 $ $163.20 shipped

From http://www.allversionperformance.com


Modified by Kidnkorner at 3:17 PM 4/19/2008

i-VTEC_DOHC 04-19-2008 12:00 PM

Re: (Kidnkorner)
 
the skunk 2 cams are just street cams arent they?

cuz if u want the buddy club setup, your pushin over 1000 just for the cams.
now the buddy club are real race cams.

Kidnkorner 04-19-2008 01:18 PM

Re: (i-VTEC_DOHC)
 
correction made

ju5tchi11in 06-21-2008 10:34 AM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (i-VTEC_DOHC)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kidnkorner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skunk 2 Stage 1 Cams 305-05-0220 $546.26 shipped
Skunk 2 Springs 311-05-0380 $206.40 shipped
Titanium retainers 308-05-0410 $ $163.20 shipped

From http://www.allversionperformance.com


Modified by Kidnkorner at 3:17 PM 4/19/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

Brian Crower K20A/K20Z Camshafts, Stage 2- $535
Brian Crower Valve Springs & Titanium Retainers- $395

http://www.kingmotorsports.com

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i-VTEC_DOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your thinkin about smog when u dont have to wory about it for 4 years.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How does this work 4 years from the time you bought your car? if i got mine in July '07 means I do not have to smog check again until July '11???

Planning on doing Buddy Club Race Header and GReddy Evo 2 Exhaust, have not heard buddy club exhaust but might go with that since I'm going to go with BCRH.

Well input on this CA smog thing would be helpful.

teggsr925 06-21-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (ju5tchi11in)
 
supercharge that bitch!!!!

Curiouz_G 06-23-2008 06:13 AM

how large are Si injectors? Around 310cc's like the Type S or larger? Bc once you start hitting 210+, youll start to run out of injector.

dirtySOHC's 06-23-2008 07:57 AM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (siboii08)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by siboii08 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">320 mm Turbines.. with a upgraded blowoff valve.. And octaine booster. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

what? turbines? you run a twin turbo setup? upgraded blowoff valve? a blowoff valve is hardly a performance mod but rather a device to eliminate compressor surge. octane booster is worthless as well.

and for the OP...a handful of people have been sucessfull boosting their cars with whats available right now. I am curious to see more NA setups but we all know what we're waiting for.

ChargedSI 06-23-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (i-VTEC_DOHC)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i-VTEC_DOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your thinkin about smog when u dont have to wory about it for 4 years.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is not about 4 years. If you get pulled over by a CHP (or any State, County, or City police in California) and they suspects the vehicle has been modified, they can do an inspection on the spot. You can refuse to open your hood without a warrant, but you can't stop them from looking under car. According to my neighbor, if they find modifications under the car, they have probably cause and can insist on you opening the hood. It really makes no difference at that point cause your already screwed. If they finds modification without a CARB sticker, he can write you a fix-it ticket. If they suspect any of the parts are stolen, they will impound your car. In addition, if they even suspect you have modified the vehicle but can't prove it at the time, they can request the DMV to require a smog before you can renew your registration. Even modification with a CARB can trigger a request to the DMV for a smog inspection. Btw, a cat-back without a CARB sticker is a ticket-able offense in California. A header without a catalytic converter is guaranteed.

I speak of this based on the experience a neighbor kid had here with a Sheriff. The kids father is an attorney and when I discussed the issue his son was going through, even he expressed his surprise as to how much power law enforcement has pertaining to these issues.

In most cases, the police don't really care unless they catch you racing around or have a vehicle with an exhaust loud enough to be annoying. Header & Apex exhaust sounds like it "could" fall into the annoying category.

I am not trying to tell him what modification to do or not do, I am just trying to let him know that there "could" be consequences. I was offering a power solution with less risk.

Someone once said "going through life being ignorant, is not way to live."




Modified by ChargedSI at 4:46 PM 6/23/2008

i-VTEC_DOHC 06-23-2008 05:46 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (ju5tchi11in)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ju5tchi11in &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Brian Crower K20A/K20Z Camshafts, Stage 2- $535
Brian Crower Valve Springs & Titanium Retainers- $395

http://www.kingmotorsports.com

How does this work 4 years from the time you bought your car? if i got mine in July '07 means I do not have to smog check again until July '11???

Planning on doing Buddy Club Race Header and GReddy Evo 2 Exhaust, have not heard buddy club exhaust but might go with that since I'm going to go with BCRH.

Well input on this CA smog thing would be helpful.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
on new cars its 4-6 years from purchase date.

i-VTEC_DOHC 06-23-2008 05:47 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (ChargedSI)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChargedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It is not about 4 years. If you get pulled over by a CHP (or any State, County, or City police in California) and they suspects the vehicle has been modified, they can do an inspection on the spot. You can refuse to open your hood without a warrant, but you can't stop them from looking under car. According to my neighbor, if they find modifications under the car, they have probably cause and can insist on you opening the hood. It really makes no difference at that point cause your already screwed. If they finds modification without a CARB sticker, he can write you a fix-it ticket. If they suspect any of the parts are stolen, they will impound your car. In addition, if they even suspect you have modified the vehicle but can't prove it at the time, they can request the DMV to require a smog before you can renew your registration. Even modification with a CARB can trigger a request to the DMV for a smog inspection. Btw, a cat-back without a CARB sticker is a ticket-able offense in California. A header without a catalytic converter is guaranteed.

I speak of this based on the experience a neighbor kid had here with a Sheriff. The kids father is an attorney and when I discussed the issue his son was going through, even he expressed his surprise as to how much power law enforcement has pertaining to these issues.

In most cases, the police don't really care unless they catch you racing around or have a vehicle with an exhaust loud enough to be annoying. Header & Apex exhaust sounds like it "could" fall into the annoying category.

I am not trying to tell him what modification to do or not do, I am just trying to let him know that there "could" be consequences. I was offering a power solution with less risk.

Someone once said "going through life being ignorant, is not way to live."


Modified by ChargedSI at 4:46 PM 6/23/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
well thats why u keep the stock exhaust!! lol im running a dcrh with stock exhaust and no cop has said anything to me yet

100miles+ 06-23-2008 09:53 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (dirtySOHC's)
 
p2r throttle body spacer and short shifter?

If you got the money go with the cams but you might wanna wait for tuning.

ju5tchi11in 06-23-2008 10:20 PM

Re: Other Mods for k20z3 (i-VTEC_DOHC)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i-VTEC_DOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
on new cars its 4-6 years from purchase date.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks.

I brought this post back from the dead to ask that question instead of making a new thread.

Perhaps an HFP axle back would sound nice with a BCRH/DCRH, I plan to do cams probably in a year... thats how long i think it will take for decent fuel management. With the BCRH larger piping should yeild better gains.


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