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medstudent 01-15-2008 11:57 AM

My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar
 
1994 Dallara F394 (Formula 3). The car is made entirely out of carbon-fiber and weighs only 900-lbs. Powering the car is an authentic Mugen F3 race motor (MF-204). The motor is derived from a B20A5 block (early 90's Prelude). Not much different other than the use of lightweight components (power increase from 135 to 165-hp). All other components are Mugen (engine hub, ITBs, exhaust). All F3 cars at that time ran 24mm restrictors (that CF tear-drop shaped object). According to the current owners, it ran 3Gs at Brands Hatch.

History: This car was originally owned by Willi Webbers (Michael Schumacher's and Ralf Schumacher's manager) and his two drivers for German F3 were: Ralf Schumacher (Formula 1 Driver) and Sascha Maassen (Porsche factory driver for ALMS). The car was later owned by COMTEC and ran in British F3. Then Steve Nichols (Ayrton Senna's F1 chief engineer) bought the car, threw out the Opel-Spiess motor and put in the Mugen race motor. Ran in British ARP F3. Currently owned by Halcyon who campaigned it in Formula Libre.

It's on its way to Texas https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...d/102_3038.JPG

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...8_bew79/a2.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...9_ylnsy/a3.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...4_ouvw8/a4.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...5_6yyvg/a5.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...6_urwon/a6.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...7_zbfyf/a7.jpg

ukdmegg5 01-15-2008 12:01 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (medstudent)
 
All im sayin is wow https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif

VRD^sam 01-15-2008 12:03 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (ukdmegg5)
 
Must be nice to own a Formula Racecar, Honda powA https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif

00ekcoupe 01-15-2008 12:19 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (VRD^sam)
 
SICK!! I'd love to test drive that shit. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Hiii Im TYLER 01-15-2008 12:19 PM

Lower & New mirrors AND new wheels!

haha jk. Looks sick man! When you get it I want to see a video of that sucker on the track! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

medstudent 01-15-2008 12:24 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (VRD^sam)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VRD^sam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Must be nice to own a Formula Racecar, Honda powA https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm hoping in a few years, I can afford a F3000/Formula Nippon racecar powered by a 3.0L Mugen V8.

CTR_ryan 01-15-2008 12:25 PM

Re: (Hiii Im TYLER)
 
damn, look at how only half of the rear tires are being utilized

PornoPanda 01-15-2008 12:25 PM

Re: (Hiii Im TYLER)
 
one day i will own one https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Markland Photo 01-15-2008 12:50 PM

Straight sick.

dinko 01-15-2008 01:00 PM

Re: (Markland Photo)
 
tell a family member to grab a camera so we can see you actlin like a little girl when you see that in your garage....i know i would!

caustic. 01-15-2008 01:04 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Markland Photo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Straight sick.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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GG99 01-15-2008 01:19 PM

Re: (caustic.)
 
oh man i bet that sounds so mean https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

turdflo 01-15-2008 01:25 PM

hey man, that is insane!

do you mind disclosing how much something like this costs and also operating/maintenance costs etc?

or do you prefer to divulge that via pm only?


Tuner Eddy 01-15-2008 01:38 PM

put blinkers on it, and drive that thing on the street! haha

Chronicsinners 01-15-2008 01:42 PM

Re: (Tuner Eddy)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tuner Eddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">put blinkers on it, and drive that thing on the street! haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
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SICK https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

B16B_coupe 01-15-2008 01:42 PM

Re: (Hiii Im TYLER)
 
Another reason MUGEN owns spoon! that thing is sick https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif

PS: when do we get new pics of the s2k? http://is.rely.net/1-92-30009-l-tEzP...BTGi0jOCgA.gif

CD5SiRHero 01-15-2008 01:43 PM

Re: (turdflo)
 
Take some vids of it in action for our enjoyment https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif

scrooge 01-15-2008 01:46 PM

Re: (Chronicsinners)
 
does money grow in a tree in ur backyard? haha kidding must be expletiveingggggg nice to own a mugen formula 1 car dam

.dave 01-15-2008 01:51 PM

Re: (scrooge)
 
That is awesome, as is the rest of your collection from looking at your signature. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

JamesL 01-15-2008 01:54 PM

Re: (CTR_ryan)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CTR_ryan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn, look at how only half of the rear tires are being utilized</TD></TR></TABLE>


What you see in that picture is the dirt/debris that was collected on the tire from it rolling on the ground. There is only dirt on the inner 1/2 because of the camber angle. Rest assured that all of the rear tires are utilized under cornering/load.

misha 01-15-2008 01:57 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (00ekcoupe)
 
pretty interesting, so Foogen had to borrow a steering wheel from momo. thats funny

medstudent 01-15-2008 02:10 PM

No blinkers. The race clutch is very sensitive and will detonate if you feather it like everybody does in streetcars.

No, I wish this was a Formula 1 car with a Mugen V8 or V10. This is a Formula 3 car with a Mugen 4-cyl race motor. The next step from F3 is F3000 (Formula Nippon). Those cars run Mugen V8 motors. Then it's the big leagues in F1.

The car is made by Dallara Automobili (Italian). They supply everything (including the Momo steering wheel) except for the motor. You have a choice of fitting: Mugen-Honda, Opel-Spiess, AMG-Mercedes, Tom's Racing-Toyota motors. Mugen only supplies the engine bits (Mugen motor, intake, ITBs, headers, exhaust). Everything else is Dallara (well, except for the Pi datalogger and OZ race wheels).

medstudent 01-15-2008 02:14 PM

Re: (turdflo)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turdflo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey man, that is insane!

do you mind disclosing how much something like this costs and also operating/maintenance costs etc?

or do you prefer to divulge that via pm only?

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have no idea how much it costs to maintain these cars. Quite frankly, it worries me. The owner tells me that the Mugen-Honda motors are very easy to maintain compared to the other race motors.

I would prefer not to disclose the costs of this particular car, but I can tell you that any of the Dallara cars in this era (165-hp restriction) will range between $15,000-45,000 USD. Price varies on race-pedigree, condition, etc... The newer Dallara cars (210-hp restriction) will cost $40,000-75,000 USD.

three stars, two bars 01-15-2008 02:20 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (misha)
 
Too bad its a B20A in there, still an incredible machine to own. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by misha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pretty interesting, so Foogen had to borrow a steering wheel from momo. thats funny</TD></TR></TABLE>

Consumer Mugen wheels are made my Momo.

Mr JDM South 01-15-2008 02:22 PM

Re: My Mugen Formula 3 Racecar (medstudent)
 
very nice vehicle https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

how common is this motor? is it the same as all other B20s

"The motor is derived from a B20A5 block (early 90's Prelude)."


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