Notices
Honda Accord & Crosstour (2003 - 2012) 2003 - 2012 Honda Accord and Inspire

maintaining the accord

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-25-2009, 10:00 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default maintaining the accord

we have had our accord for a year and a half and I had a few questions.. When is it with the 5 speed that your supposed to change the transmission fluid? Is there a true mileage when your supposed to change the timing belt or anything else for that matter? I really don't like the minder on things like that. I would just like to know when it is that I am supposed to do this. We have put over 32k on it in this amount of time. No issues with it. Gets 36+ on the highway less in winter time as we have snow and ice to deal with. Thanks for the help.
Old 01-25-2009, 10:24 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
TOO MUCH TORQUE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,005
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

manual says to change tranny fluid at 105 but i think thats kind of late, i personally would do it every 30k just to be fresh with oil, its very simple to do also. your accord uses a timing chain, so you dont have to worry about that
Old 01-25-2009, 10:38 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

I couldn't find the info on the manual trans. The book mentioned the timing belt maybe I misread it or something will have to pull it out tomorrow and check. I like the timing chain idea better. I just did an oil change on it today filled it up with amsoil synthetic man did that stuff improve my mpgs over stock.
Old 01-26-2009, 06:19 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
redbull-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,766
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

The 4 cylinder uses a timing chain. The V6 uses a timing belt.
Old 01-26-2009, 07:07 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

thanks. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
Old 01-26-2009, 07:58 PM
  #6  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Change manual transmission fluid every 30,000 miles maximum.

I recommend genuine Honda Manual Transmission Fluid for the best shift feel.
Old 01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

I guess I will be changing this now then. But I will be running this https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtf.aspx

Last edited by 07acrd; 01-26-2009 at 10:07 PM.
Old 01-26-2009, 09:25 PM
  #8  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

No engine oil is going to have as good of shift feel as Honda MTF. Been there, done that.

If you must use AMSOIL, you should be using this: https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtf.aspx
Old 01-26-2009, 10:01 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

thats what I was looking at must of copied the wrong link. oops. fixed it now. Some people may not like or think synthetics work but I have been running them for a long time and no issues and my vehicles have lasted longer than friends with same thing.

Last edited by 07acrd; 01-26-2009 at 10:08 PM.
Old 01-28-2009, 05:25 AM
  #10  
In a Junkyard near you.
 
Ross 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Richmond, Va
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Honda MTF is better than any synthetic you could use. I've been there and done that too.
Old 01-28-2009, 07:25 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

and how do you know that?
Old 01-28-2009, 09:05 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
CBL9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Originally Posted by 07acrd
and how do you know that?

It is Genuine Honda MTF Oil. It just is and change it every 30K I just did it on mine. No synthetic has been tested or proven to have better lubrication, and friction with spinning synchros than the OEM fluid. It is what it is.
Old 01-28-2009, 09:47 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

is this why on the 6spd nv4500 they only run synthetic gl-4 rated fluid? same for the nv5600 too.. Has anyone run the amsoil and had any issues or problems with it or even a different brand of synthetic? I am just trying to understand and know what works and what doesn't. I have heard a lot of bad with running royal purple in the nv4500 and nv5600 but when they used amsoil or redline it worked great. This is my actual firt accord so I don't know everything about them. But know they are good cars and last a long time. My uncle is on his third since 84. First 2 both went over 200k but the 84 was stolen, the 96 is now his sons and it's push 250k and I don't think he ever changed the fluid in the 5spd. His 07 is just getting broke in.

Last edited by 07acrd; 01-28-2009 at 10:05 PM.
Old 01-29-2009, 09:35 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Heat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Springfield, IL, USA
Posts: 1,573
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: maintaining the accord

How do you change the manual transmission fluid in an 8th generation?

I'm used to sixth generation where there are two bolts - you removed the two bolts and the fluid drains out of the lower one. Then replace the lower bolt and put something like 2.1 quarts of MTF through the top hole.
Old 01-29-2009, 09:42 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
CBL9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Originally Posted by Heat
How do you change the manual transmission fluid in an 8th generation?

I'm used to sixth generation where there are two bolts - you removed the two bolts and the fluid drains out of the lower one. Then replace the lower bolt and put something like 2.1 quarts of MTF through the top hole.
Same way in the 7th & 8th.
Old 01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
  #16  
In a Junkyard near you.
 
Ross 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Richmond, Va
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Originally Posted by 07acrd
is this why on the 6spd nv4500 they only run synthetic gl-4 rated fluid? same for the nv5600 too.. Has anyone run the amsoil and had any issues or problems with it or even a different brand of synthetic? I am just trying to understand and know what works and what doesn't. I have heard a lot of bad with running royal purple in the nv4500 and nv5600 but when they used amsoil or redline it worked great. This is my actual firt accord so I don't know everything about them. But know they are good cars and last a long time. My uncle is on his third since 84. First 2 both went over 200k but the 84 was stolen, the 96 is now his sons and it's push 250k and I don't think he ever changed the fluid in the 5spd. His 07 is just getting broke in.
Honda ONLY recommends "Honda MTF" in EVERY manual transmission.
It's liquid gold for your gears. I've used it in EVERY Honda manual I've owned and it works like a charm.
Old 01-29-2009, 07:42 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Doesn't honda only recommend using only honda fluids in everything too though? I am going to try the amsoil as I have heard no issues with it on many vehicles running it. If it turns out to cause an issue I will change it out. Thanks for advice and help. Is there a page in the manual where I can find where it actually tells me the mileage to change out my fluid in the trans? I looked 3 times.
Old 01-30-2009, 06:08 AM
  #18  
In a Junkyard near you.
 
Ross 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Richmond, Va
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

It's up to you. I'm just trying to tell my personal experience.
There is no mileage. Your maint minder system will tell you when it needs to be done. But every 30K is the norm.
Old 01-30-2009, 06:50 AM
  #19  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Maintenance Minder-equipped vehicles (all '06 and newer Accords, Civics, '07 CR-Vs, etc.) don't have a set maintenance schedule. Honda supposedly engineered the computer to determine when you need services.

Frankly the Maintenance Minder system is crap IMHO, and I recommend sticking with the old 30,000-mile major service intervals that they recommended previously. I do it with all of my cars, and they've given me no trouble.
Old 01-30-2009, 07:01 AM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

I agree with your view of the minder. I just didn't even see the notes on the minder about when to change the manual trans fluid. I will for sure follow instructions on changing every 30k it's not going to kill me to keep good fluid in the thing. I would rather change too often then not enough. Thanks for the help. When I asked for a page number I was wondering if I had missed the thing when reading the manual for changing the fluid I could not find info on it at all. So I was a little lost
Old 01-30-2009, 08:42 AM
  #21  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

This is the service schedule I recommend for all '03-07 Accord 4-cylinders:

Every 6 months - I recommend the following:
* check brake linings and hardware (slide pins, pad clips, etc.)
* clean and adjust rear drum brakes if equipped

Every year - I recommend the following:
* check all steering & suspension joints, bushings, shocks, and hardware
* check engine mounts and axle joints
* check all lights for proper operation
* inspect car underneath and inside engine bay for leaks/rust/damage

Every fuel fill-up - Check engine oil level.

Every oil change - Check tire tread depths and set air pressure; rotate tires as needed. Check wiper inserts and all fluid levels/condition.

5000 miles - First engine oil & filter change; change every 3500-5000 miles thereafter for conventional oil, or 5000-8000 miles thereafter for a full synthetic. If you do not put that many miles on the car in a year's time, change the oil once per year. You should always check the oil level every 1000 miles, especially if you're running it over 3500 miles, but realistically no matter how long you're running it. It's very important to keep the oil sump full. A good habit to get into is to check the oil level every time you fuel up.

30,000 miles - Change the following:
* automatic or manual transmission fluid
* engine air filter
* cabin air filter

45,000 miles or 3 years - Change the brake fluid

60,000 miles - Same as the 30,000 mile service

90,000 miles - Do both the 30,000 and 45,000 mile services

105,000 miles - Change the following:
* engine coolant
* iridium spark plugs
* accessory serpentine drive belt
* PCV valve
Old 01-30-2009, 09:51 AM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
CBL9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

Originally Posted by Targa250R
This is the service schedule I recommend for all '03-07 Accord 4-cylinders:

Every 6 months - I recommend the following:
* check brake linings and hardware (slide pins, pad clips, etc.)
* clean and adjust rear drum brakes if equipped

Every year - I recommend the following:
* check all steering & suspension joints, bushings, shocks, and hardware
* check engine mounts and axle joints
* check all lights for proper operation
* inspect car underneath and inside engine bay for leaks/rust/damage

Every fuel fill-up - Check engine oil level.

Every oil change - Check tire tread depths and set air pressure; rotate tires as needed. Check wiper inserts and all fluid levels/condition.

5000 miles - First engine oil & filter change; change every 3500-5000 miles thereafter for conventional oil, or 5000-8000 miles thereafter for a full synthetic. If you do not put that many miles on the car in a year's time, change the oil once per year. You should always check the oil level every 1000 miles, especially if you're running it over 3500 miles, but realistically no matter how long you're running it. It's very important to keep the oil sump full. A good habit to get into is to check the oil level every time you fuel up.

30,000 miles - Change the following:
* automatic or manual transmission fluid
* engine air filter
* cabin air filter

45,000 miles or 3 years - Change the brake fluid

60,000 miles - Same as the 30,000 mile service

90,000 miles - Do both the 30,000 and 45,000 mile services

105,000 miles - Change the following:
* engine coolant
* iridium spark plugs
* accessory serpentine drive belt
* PCV valve
I agree with all of that BUT the coolant. "Long life" coolant is termed that, I am not going to leave original coolant in my vehicle for over 100K miles. I plan on doing that when I flush/drain/bleed my brake fluid this summer around 45K miles.
Old 01-30-2009, 11:57 AM
  #23  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

I feel that a 45k mile service interval is just overkill for the Honda coolant. Based on my experience, the factory fill Type-II blue coolant is fantastic - I've never seen it test over -32*F and have never seen any problems running it to 105k miles.

People often balk at using Honda chemicals and fluids, but I firmly believe that Honda really goes out of their way to find the best products. I've never ever been disappointed by a Honda chemical or fluid that I've used personally, and in many cases it's the best stuff I've ever used. I use a number of their cleaners and polishes for my motorcycles, GN4 oil for my street bike, Shin-Etsu grease for rubber seals on all of my cars, MTF in the trans, Ultra Flange for anything that requires RTV, GN4 , etc. Even a lot of GM guys are using Honda ATF-Z1 in the Tremec T56 manual transmissions that call for Dexron III ATF.

The only Honda fluids I don't personally use are the rebranded ExxonMobil automobile engine oil (though you should only use Honda 0W-20 in the hybrids), brake fluid, and 2-stroke premix oil.
Old 01-30-2009, 01:50 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
07acrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shingletown ca
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: maintaining the accord

with the miles she drives to and from work I change the oil every 2-3 months and I am running synthetic. Time for trans and brake fluid service.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
manymarius73
Honda Accord & Crosstour (2003 - 2012)
1
03-30-2016 03:29 PM
hometheaterman
Honda Accord & Crosstour (2003 - 2012)
2
06-07-2010 05:13 AM
rileyparrish
Honda Accord & Crosstour (2003 - 2012)
6
03-04-2010 09:00 PM
Two400
Honda Accord & Crosstour (2003 - 2012)
2
01-22-2008 04:10 PM
Goofyboy
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
1
10-19-2004 06:25 PM



Quick Reply: maintaining the accord



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:19 PM.