Air conditioning problem
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Air conditioning problem
Just had the a/c serviced a few weeks ago and now have an interesting problem. Cold air will blow from the passenger side vents, but not the driver's side. There is airflow, and it does cool down occasionally, but mostly it feels like just the vent is on. Switching settings on the control panel doesn't help. The car does not have dual climate control, and the fan operates normally. Any suggestions? The car is an '03 Accord LX four door.
Any help would be appreciated.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Sounds like it's low on refrigerant. What was done when the ac was serviced? If it's been an issue since the service, it's possible they did not properly charge the system. If this issue started sometime after the service than there is a leak.
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The entire system was replaced a year ago after the compressor failed. It's still under warranty, so when they serviced it, the shop evacuated the system and serviced the refrigerant. It's blowing cold, just not from the drivers side.
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Air leaks are common on systems that have had evaporators replaced, because the service techs do not take the time to retape/refoam the gaps.
It kinda sounds like the mode door is not functioning properly, do some quick tests so we can help you more.
Tell us, from side to side, what happens.
Does the heat function on both sides?
Is the air speed relatively the same side to side at all speeds?
Do you symptoms occur in other modes? (IE defrost, floor)
Does the recirculation door function?
Does blocking the passenger vents restore cold air flow on the drivers side?
Systems can have problems like this due to lack of charge. Most dual A/C mini-vans with low refrigerant may cool sufficiently in the front. but absolutely squat for the rear. This is due to the way A/C works, if there is low charge, only a small portion of the evaporator gets cold, and depending on the position of the mode door, one side could get colder than the other simply due to design, but kinda serves as a diagnostic aid as well.
It kinda sounds like the mode door is not functioning properly, do some quick tests so we can help you more.
Tell us, from side to side, what happens.
Does the heat function on both sides?
Is the air speed relatively the same side to side at all speeds?
Do you symptoms occur in other modes? (IE defrost, floor)
Does the recirculation door function?
Does blocking the passenger vents restore cold air flow on the drivers side?
Systems can have problems like this due to lack of charge. Most dual A/C mini-vans with low refrigerant may cool sufficiently in the front. but absolutely squat for the rear. This is due to the way A/C works, if there is low charge, only a small portion of the evaporator gets cold, and depending on the position of the mode door, one side could get colder than the other simply due to design, but kinda serves as a diagnostic aid as well.
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i had the same problem as you in my 05 accord, and the problem ended up being that it was low on refrigerant, mine blew cold on the two passenger side vents, but the two driver side vents blew like i just had the fan on. maybe your low on charge? i would get it checked out.
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Re: Air conditioning problem
Once again, refrigerant was just serviced. It is not a dual mode system.
I haven't tried the heat or defrost functions yet, but on recirc it does the same thing - blows cold on the passenger side only. I noticed last week that it will intermittently blow cold on the driver's side. Air speed is the same both sides, and it will change with increase or decrease in the fan speed setting. I'll try the other functions and closing off the passenger vents to see what happens.
I haven't tried the heat or defrost functions yet, but on recirc it does the same thing - blows cold on the passenger side only. I noticed last week that it will intermittently blow cold on the driver's side. Air speed is the same both sides, and it will change with increase or decrease in the fan speed setting. I'll try the other functions and closing off the passenger vents to see what happens.
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Once again, refrigerant was just serviced. It is not a dual mode system.
I haven't tried the heat or defrost functions yet, but on recirc it does the same thing - blows cold on the passenger side only. I noticed last week that it will intermittently blow cold on the driver's side. Air speed is the same both sides, and it will change with increase or decrease in the fan speed setting. I'll try the other functions and closing off the passenger vents to see what happens.
I haven't tried the heat or defrost functions yet, but on recirc it does the same thing - blows cold on the passenger side only. I noticed last week that it will intermittently blow cold on the driver's side. Air speed is the same both sides, and it will change with increase or decrease in the fan speed setting. I'll try the other functions and closing off the passenger vents to see what happens.
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Re: Air conditioning problem
Finally got a chance to drive the car again today. Heat, defrost, recirc and temp control all function normally. Air volume increases and decreases with the blower switch. Shutting off the pax side vent increases the airflow to the rest of them. After I drive the car for about ten or fifteen minutes, the driver's side vents start blowing cold air again.
So it does sound like a leak or low refrigerant. I'll take the car back and have them look at it again, as it's still under warranty.
Thanks for the help, everyone..
slowcivic2k and DCFIVER; your comments were not appreciated. Please let me know what shops you work for so I can advise people not to take their cars there. Hope you don't treat your customers like that.
So it does sound like a leak or low refrigerant. I'll take the car back and have them look at it again, as it's still under warranty.
Thanks for the help, everyone..
slowcivic2k and DCFIVER; your comments were not appreciated. Please let me know what shops you work for so I can advise people not to take their cars there. Hope you don't treat your customers like that.
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You do not need to appreciate my diagnostic steps, just follow them and you will find the answer you seek, that's why me and DCFIVER are here... to prevent you from blowing your cash on hunches.
Sounds like low refrigerant or a bad expansion valve possibly due to debris.
Sounds like low refrigerant or a bad expansion valve possibly due to debris.
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All civics up to 2000 have an expansion valve attached to the evaporator, requires that part to be removed to replace it.
Never had to replace a metering valve on an 2001 and never Honda yet, they may use an H-block now, never really paid a whole lot of attention.
Never had to replace a metering valve on an 2001 and never Honda yet, they may use an H-block now, never really paid a whole lot of attention.
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Man they sure don't make that one easy.
I've had the car 4 years now. The air never worked. I replaced the compressor and rec/dryer as well as added freon last year but it still would not switch on. I also replaced the little switch next to the coil at the radiator.
Lost interest in it last year. Gave it to my daughter and would like to get it working for her.
When ever in the past I had one that would not switch on I would replace the compressor and rec/dryer then load and they would work.
When I bought the comp and rec/dryer they also sold me the expansion valve saying the mfg would not warranty the parts unless I installed this too. So I'm guessing it is time to install it and see if it helps. Any ideas would help. It is a 93 del sol.
I've had the car 4 years now. The air never worked. I replaced the compressor and rec/dryer as well as added freon last year but it still would not switch on. I also replaced the little switch next to the coil at the radiator.
Lost interest in it last year. Gave it to my daughter and would like to get it working for her.
When ever in the past I had one that would not switch on I would replace the compressor and rec/dryer then load and they would work.
When I bought the comp and rec/dryer they also sold me the expansion valve saying the mfg would not warranty the parts unless I installed this too. So I'm guessing it is time to install it and see if it helps. Any ideas would help. It is a 93 del sol.
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Re: Air conditioning problem
Update:
Took the car back to the shop this week. The compressor was still under warranty, so it and the expansion valve were replaced. The system was evacuated and reserviced. This did not fix the problem. It still blows nice and cold from the right side vents, but not the left. The tech measured a 40 degree difference in air temp at the vents from left to right. There were no refrigerant leaks found.
A few observations - all the other settings, heat, defrost, max air, floor, etc, work normally. If I rev the engine to 2k rpm in park, or it's at 2k or above while driving, cool air will blow from the left vents, but not as cold as the right ones. Air velocity from the fan will increase and decrease equally on both sides when the fan speed is changed.
Troubleshooting continues.
Took the car back to the shop this week. The compressor was still under warranty, so it and the expansion valve were replaced. The system was evacuated and reserviced. This did not fix the problem. It still blows nice and cold from the right side vents, but not the left. The tech measured a 40 degree difference in air temp at the vents from left to right. There were no refrigerant leaks found.
A few observations - all the other settings, heat, defrost, max air, floor, etc, work normally. If I rev the engine to 2k rpm in park, or it's at 2k or above while driving, cool air will blow from the left vents, but not as cold as the right ones. Air velocity from the fan will increase and decrease equally on both sides when the fan speed is changed.
Troubleshooting continues.
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Finally got a chance to drive the car again today. Heat, defrost, recirc and temp control all function normally. Air volume increases and decreases with the blower switch. Shutting off the pax side vent increases the airflow to the rest of them. After I drive the car for about ten or fifteen minutes, the driver's side vents start blowing cold air again.
So it does sound like a leak or low refrigerant. I'll take the car back and have them look at it again, as it's still under warranty.
Thanks for the help, everyone..
slowcivic2k and DCFIVER; your comments were not appreciated. Please let me know what shops you work for so I can advise people not to take their cars there. Hope you don't treat your customers like that.
So it does sound like a leak or low refrigerant. I'll take the car back and have them look at it again, as it's still under warranty.
Thanks for the help, everyone..
slowcivic2k and DCFIVER; your comments were not appreciated. Please let me know what shops you work for so I can advise people not to take their cars there. Hope you don't treat your customers like that.
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hmmmm so they replaced these parts and just told you we didn't fix the problem and just let you go home? They should diag. farther at that point..
If AC is blowing cold on passenger side but not driver side... I know that it can't be AC refrig. It must be air mix vent problem. I would check for air mix vent cable/motor. If vent is stuck open or not shut all the way, heat can mix in with cold air and will blow warm air.
If AC is blowing cold on passenger side but not driver side... I know that it can't be AC refrig. It must be air mix vent problem. I would check for air mix vent cable/motor. If vent is stuck open or not shut all the way, heat can mix in with cold air and will blow warm air.
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I have same issue, blowing warm driver side cold passenger side. i noticed before it started I could hear a fluttering sound coming from behind the instrument panel. Fluttering has stopped but now have the temp difference. Thoughts?
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