Deviant117

I have an 02 accord LX with the f23a1 and I need to replace the timing belt tensioner. I do have the special tool in place to keep it from turning over but the nut will not break loose. I called honda and they said it is torque to 900 ft/lbs. I'm using an 1100 ingersoll-rand with my air compressor wired for 220 nd turned up to 140 psi, still nothing. Tried pb blast, map gas, still nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

djkurious

Have you tried this?

Works everytime with me and that cheater pole.

Brownjd

since you've got the tool, just use a long extension and a long pipe (6ft) as a breaker bar, i never have luck with air tools on that bolt, but the breaker bar works every time!

92civlude

Thats odd. How did that happen? Was it overtorqued? Or did it tighten by itself? hmmmm..

LocoJoe

I use the airgun, lots of WD-40 and back and forth with it. Also try hitting the nut with a hammer kinda lightly.

Deviant117

How long is that extension?

TheMuffinMan

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Doesn't really matter, the longer the better for a cheater pole. You're taking advantage of some simple physics by using it.

djkurious

It doesn't matter like Muffin Man said, but the longer the better. Mine is 5 feet.

Deviant117

How long is the [U][extension/U] (the piece between the cheater pole and the socket). I work in a factory so I can get up to a 7 ft breaker bar, but I'll have to buy an extension.

TouringAccord

the one in the picture is 20 inches long

also, the crank bolt is not torqued to 900 ft/lbs, not sure why anyone at Honda would give you that spec. It's torqued to 181 ft/lbs.

djkurious

Breaker bar:

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-qua...bar-98270.html

or


http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=914045_0_0_


Use whatever drive you want. I prefer 1/2 inch.

TouringAccord

he's asking about the extension, not the breaker bar...
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...9&blockType=L9

Deviant117

Where did you get 181 ft/lbs from? I know for a fact its higher than that. I can't get an 1100 lb impact to break it. I first had a 320 lb torque on it and it clicked every time. 181 wouldn't need a breaker bar.

holmesnmanny

The reason you can't get it to break is probably because of the fact that the nut is staked.

Also, put a jack under where the ratchet meets the extension so no matter how hard you try to break it loose it's always straight on.

92civlude

??

holmesnmanny

lol for some reason was thinking he was ****ing with the axle nut instead of crank bolt, same thing applies tho

92civlude

I kinda figured that!

TouringAccord

Look it up in the service manual. It is 181 ft/lbs.

How do you know for a fact that it is higher than that? Were you the last person to tighten that bolt and crank it on there higher than 181 ft/lbs? I don't care what size impact you are using or how much torque it can deliver, that doesn't indicate what spec the nut or bolt you are trying to remove was actually torqued to.

iang

Well after 105K miles, it takes way more than 181 ft/lbs to break it free. I have a V6 and used the starter bump method to break it free(wont work on your 4 cyl I dont think) because I couldnt get it off with the tool/breaker bar. I ended up using a torque wrench to fasten it back on to 181 ft/lbs . I ended up removing it again a couple weeks later and that time I easily got it off with the tool/breaker bar on the first try.

netfreak

I used a small blowtorch to warm it up a bit. My electric impact couldn't remove it before the heat but worked right away after it. Some people might say "don't use heat" but I've put around 40,000km on it since, and nothing has broken.

dpetro1

OP, do yourself a favor and listen to this man. he is the one that took the picture above and posted a whole DIY on how to do a timing belt/water pump change on the accords.

if you would have taken a peek at the FAQ before posting you would have found the answer to your question anyway.

Tiltboy311

I am having this SAME problem right now. I've tried it all too and nothing.

iang

I have seen several videos where pros used an oxy-acetylene torch and then blasted it off with an impact. I cant believe you got it with an electric impact.

The 900 ft-lbs doesnt seem that ridiculous even though we know when its factory installed its probably 181 ft-lbs. Assuming no losses on a 6 ft breaker bar (not realistic), it would only take 31 lbs of force to break that crank pulley bolt loose. I can guarantee I was putting at least 100 lbs of force on the pole and it wasnt breaking loose. A more rigid breaker bar would have probably helped.

netfreak

My electric impact is rated to 240lb-ft and wouldn't move it after hammering it for 20 seconds without heating it up first. I wouldn't have even thought of using a torch on it but after reading it somewhere I'm glad I did. My motor was out of the car when I was doing this so using an impact was my only option.

361 accord

ive done this on my accord like yours, all by myself, no heat, no power tools, small box-o-tools, and i'm not hella strong either

pick up the car a lot higher
stick the holder on like you got there
dont use ANY extensions just straight up socket on breaker bar breaker bar should come out under the bumper, you might have to turn the motor a little so you can have the holder on the ground AND have enough ground clearance for the breaker bar

stomp/stand on the breaker bar just like you see people trying to take off a tire,

*apply the force directly 90degrees with the handle right on the tip, normally you that would hurt, but you got shoes, step on it! its about 20%more power than pulling it at an angle

*extensions kill your torque A LOT, thats why the accord torque steers so bad-its got one long *** shaft and a really stubby one

*as long as you dont shake around side to side, theres no way you're gonna tip anything over if you got the ebrake and chocks good