hondaaccordf23

What would be better to put in my 2000 honda accord ex

A H22 or F20

also I drive about 200+ miles a week long distance

Hairnandez

As I said earlier in your other thread I think the F20b would be a better choice, but if you can afford an H22, that would also be a great motor.

92civlude

Other than the cost,Which is about a hundred dollar difference, why do you think the F20b is better than the H22?

hondaaccordf23

from the other thread i was jw i might sell my other car which is a dodge to get h22 but i wanna try to get engine without selling it and maybe get a integra with selling dodge its just i dont wanna wait a month or so to get engine as im an asst electrician

Hairnandez

not sure what your job has to do with it, but just looking on hmotorsonline.com who is very reputable dealer of Honda motors and known for their outstandlingly clean engines, the price for H22 longblock is about 1000-1300 + shipping. where the F20b is 699-849 + shipping where the 699 version is 185hp vs the 849s 200hp. Seems like an obvious choice to me.

You can go the eBay route and get them for 599+shipping for a F20b where the
H22 is 749+shipping.
I have no idea what motors in junkyards in your area go for. We don't have any wrecked preludes in my local salvage yards but as many SOHC accord motors as the eye can see.
Good luck with you choice.

hondaaccordf23

I was saying my job because I don't work everyday so I'm poor right now is what I was saying

92civlude

I recently swapped in an F20b in a 98 accord for a customer. The original f23a1 seemed to pull harder in the lower rpm range than the bluetop. For the money he spent, He would have been happier with a high torque H22. So the difference between the f20b and the H22 is $150. Thats not much. And he didnt even mention swapping out the transmission. The F23 trans is geared way too tall for the anemic torque of the F20b. So if the op chooses an F20b, a trans swap for a shorter gearbox is a must. And what if the guy needs a tbelt or engine internals? Does he have to fly to Europe or Japan and find a Honda dealership? That would be a problem. I didnt even mention the language barrier. Would an H23 DOHC VTEC bluetop be a good option?

92civlude

Have you considered an H23 DOHC VTEC bluetop?

hondaaccordf23

I've considered anything that would make my car drivable but I have friends that tell me to do an H22 Idk much about hondas yet as I just got one but I know a little bit about fixing just to tell you my experience I was thinking H22 because of the torque as there are hills go up

gogydm

I agree with your friends. An H23 VTEC would be the best choice if you want torque. If you can't find one, the H22 would be best.

Ocho

dang im not the only one swapping an h22 in a 00 accord lol.
so if you have to just worry about the wiring issue.

6thgenaccord.com/forum search h22 swap

nus_dogg

Either go H22 or H23A VTEC. No replacement for displacement. I would want to do 2.2L+ as the F20B is a 2.0. But that isn't to say that the F20B won't be enough torque to pull that heavy Accord.

hondaaccordf23

[QUOTE=Ocho;46526986]dang im not the only one swapping an h22 in a 00 accord lol.

yea my F23 is ****ed so going bigger
lol

hondaaccordf23

yea I'm thinking H22 or H23 money is an issue tho I might as well sell dodge and be careful with winter and wash honda so dont rust

nus_dogg

I bought my JDM H22A long block for only $900.00 shipped from Japanesestarmotor.com back in '09 and still running strong with the head I built(Skunk2 Pro2 cams + Valvetrain). If you don't want rust, just oil up the underside, rear wheel arc, and where it is commonly known to rust so it won't rust out.

Hairnandez

all of that is your opinion. I had an h23, h22 and F23 and the torque is not noticeable between the 3 and I never had an h22 transmission. the so called anemic torque numbers you speak of is minimal. i doubt its even 10lb/ft. H23 and f23 transmissions are perfectly acceptable to use for someone who just needs a new motor and wants something a little better. He's not taking it to the drag strip or the track. Keep in mind he's factoring in cost not maximum peformance.

AFAccord

Brice, I think he's correct in referring to the F20b as having anemic torque. That 88mm stroke 2.0 liter would be noticeably weaker in a 3000lb Accord than any F or H 2.2l or 2.3l.

IIRC, the H23 VTEC was considerably more rare and more expensive than an H22. I think a plain jane H22 is the best option for this guy's budget.

Hairnandez

in the numbers I've seen posted for F20b, H22 and H23, all around 150-160lb/ft of torque. None of is astronomical and what I would consider anemic. the under 100lb/ft the B16 provides would be. which is found in a 2800lb 99-00 civic. Add a 200lb person and bam, 3000lbs with little to no torque. I understand the gearing of the transmissions, blah blah blah, but the OP is not swapping out his transmission, so regardless either motor will be a suitable replacement to a bad motor. most H23s came in automatic accords and would be a giant hassle to swap from what i have seen.