Timing belt?
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Timing belt?
Just turned 100k on my 94 Accord sedan and was wondering when the timing belt should be replaced?
and how much this normally costs?
It is a manual and also wondering what the signs are of a failing clutch and how long those usually last?
Thanks
and how much this normally costs?
It is a manual and also wondering what the signs are of a failing clutch and how long those usually last?
Thanks
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ball park here in SC is $600-700 for a qualified honda or import specialist. Parts only (DIY route) are $100-180 last I priced them. I would also recommend getting yourself a good service manual if you don't have one (read: Helms) and setting aside a full weekend for your first go at the job.
failing clutch may slip, esp. at mid to higher RPM. for instance accelerating to get on the interstate. You'll notice engine RPM increase more than usual in relation to speed. It may also make a rattling noise if the hub damper springs have come lose or if the release bearing has failed. it can sometimes smell like burning newspaper.
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Test 1. Park car on level ground,engine idling,release hand brake. Without stepping on gas, snap release clutch. You should be able to feel how much grip the clutch makes. Tires should squeal and engine will die instantly.
Test 2. Drive it to redline in first gear.Do a quickshift to 2nd without letting go of the gas. Feel how hard the clutch engage . It should be instant and hard , and again tires should squeal.
Test 2. Drive it to redline in first gear.Do a quickshift to 2nd without letting go of the gas. Feel how hard the clutch engage . It should be instant and hard , and again tires should squeal.
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Make sure you do the water pump while your in there doing the timing belt. Person I bought my 93 accord from didn't do it. At 135k the water pump went out. Its a $40 part.
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sure, until it breaks. you should be replacing it asap. there are no warning signs that the belt is about to break. and if it does break you are potentially looking at costly repairs.
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It is now more obvious who you take after when it comes to taking care of things.
Your waiting for an A6 or B1 swap...lol
Cheaper to do the timing belt and swap in an A6 cam and ECU now than it would be to wait for the thing to blow up and waste all your time/money on a complete engine swap. The B1 is a POS swap IMO.
Most people that would wait to have their parents allow them to do a swap would at least shoot for an H22 or something of some sort of value.
To the OP the schedule for the timing belt on the 94-97 Accord is every 100,000 km/60,000miles or 5 years whichever comes first. Also states that it should be done earlier if you live in areas of extreme cold, hot, dry or dusty conditions.
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I'm guessing that you have never been taught to take ownership or proper care of your possessions? There is a maintenance schedule for a reason.
To the OP the schedule for the timing belt on the 94-97 Accord is every 100,000 km/60,000miles or 5 years whichever comes first. Also states that it should be done earlier if you live in areas of extreme cold, hot, dry or dusty conditions.
To the OP the schedule for the timing belt on the 94-97 Accord is every 100,000 km/60,000miles or 5 years whichever comes first. Also states that it should be done earlier if you live in areas of extreme cold, hot, dry or dusty conditions.
Hi Ghost,
all the other sites are saying the following:
Interference engine = costly engine damage can occur ifbelt breaks or slips.
It is recommended at every 90,000 miles or every 72months to replace timing belt regardless of the condition.
It is recommended at every 90,000 miles or every 72months to replace timing belt regardless of the condition.
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Hi Rice,
What other sites are posting that info? Is it specifically for the 5th gen Accord or Honda's in general?
I'm getting my info straight from the 94-97 Honda Accord shop manual;
and Honda's own online maintenance calculator;
http://www.honda.ca/owners/honda-ser...nce-calculator
The online says 96,000km (60,000 miles) I rounded up to 100k. The manual says 100k km /60k miles or 60 months (5 years). So that's what I went with. Conditions matter as rubber breaks down faster under extreme conditions.
What other sites are posting that info? Is it specifically for the 5th gen Accord or Honda's in general?
I'm getting my info straight from the 94-97 Honda Accord shop manual;
and Honda's own online maintenance calculator;
http://www.honda.ca/owners/honda-ser...nce-calculator
The online says 96,000km (60,000 miles) I rounded up to 100k. The manual says 100k km /60k miles or 60 months (5 years). So that's what I went with. Conditions matter as rubber breaks down faster under extreme conditions.
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thanks ghost...
autozone's haynes type manual was one of the suggested interval (you log in for free then look into the repair info section)
um, yea i closed a few other sites... lemme reopen my history & post some:
for the 2.2L engines
http://batauto.com/tbelt/hondatb.shtml
http://www.aa1car.com/library/2003/us70343.htm
i do notice that the interval for the 97-99 was back to 60,ooo miles or 5 years...
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i did the change at a tad over 93k miles & the old parts still look good, but i've changed the belt/seals/tensioner/pulley/bearings/water pump in one shot before i handed it over to the next owner... mostly highway driving so it wasn't that bad
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when shopping for future vehicles, i'll check if the engines are non-interference (just one thing less to worry about if the belt snaps)
for example:i have a nissan quest/mercury villager clone that had a deal with ford to change the nissan's 3.0L and 3.3L engines to "free-wheeling" (that was the only good thing about the co-venture with Ford... so what if it costs a few HP~ it's a minivan & rather have this over the possibility of damaging the valves/piston when the belt decides to snap
autozone's haynes type manual was one of the suggested interval (you log in for free then look into the repair info section)
um, yea i closed a few other sites... lemme reopen my history & post some:
(7) - On 1989 & prior models, manufacturer does not recommend a specific maintenance interval. On 1990-96 models, replace at 90,000 mile intervals or every 72 months. On 1997 & later models, under normal conditions, replace at intervals of 105,000 miles or every 84 months. On 1997-99 models, replace at 60,000 mile intervals, if vehicle is operated at ambient temperatures under –20 degrees Fahrenheit or above 110 degrees Fahrenheit.
http://batauto.com/tbelt/hondatb.shtml
http://www.aa1car.com/library/2003/us70343.htm
i do notice that the interval for the 97-99 was back to 60,ooo miles or 5 years...
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i did the change at a tad over 93k miles & the old parts still look good, but i've changed the belt/seals/tensioner/pulley/bearings/water pump in one shot before i handed it over to the next owner... mostly highway driving so it wasn't that bad
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when shopping for future vehicles, i'll check if the engines are non-interference (just one thing less to worry about if the belt snaps)
for example:i have a nissan quest/mercury villager clone that had a deal with ford to change the nissan's 3.0L and 3.3L engines to "free-wheeling" (that was the only good thing about the co-venture with Ford... so what if it costs a few HP~ it's a minivan & rather have this over the possibility of damaging the valves/piston when the belt decides to snap
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lol.... well call me a sucker for taking Honda's recommendations over Autozones. Even though I will agree that in most cases the Honda recommended intervals are probably a bit overkill. I'd rather be safe then sorry with an interference engine.....
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yea, it's worse for hyundai/kia/mitsubishi owners if they don't follow the intervals...
lol at 92... roll up your sleeves and dive into changing the belt/water pump/ etc.
if you make a mistake, then go ahead and get "daddy" to front the funds to upgrade yo' ride
lol at 92... roll up your sleeves and dive into changing the belt/water pump/ etc.
if you make a mistake, then go ahead and get "daddy" to front the funds to upgrade yo' ride
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FYI, my Owners manual that came with my 96 lists timing belt interval at 90k miles (happily the previous owner did it at 178k and I'm about 199 now, so I don't have to worry about it for a while yet)
anyway, that's where that number being thrown about the internet comes from, I'd guess.
I went out and grabbed it out of my glovebox to double check before I posted
anyway, that's where that number being thrown about the internet comes from, I'd guess.
I went out and grabbed it out of my glovebox to double check before I posted
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Get a gates off of amazon DOT com for 70 shipped. my daughters car ran great also and the timing belt was the worse I have ever seen I cannot believe it do not break
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dw, thanks for the confirmation... yea if under severe conditions, do reduce that interval to 60,ooo miles... as noted by Honda (to Cover Their A$$ in case of some complaints)
bob, that's not a bad price, but did that include all the other recommended parts??? I got a whole timing belt "set" from an eBay seller (that was all dealership part numbers) that included new seals, water pump, tensioners
bob, that's not a bad price, but did that include all the other recommended parts??? I got a whole timing belt "set" from an eBay seller (that was all dealership part numbers) that included new seals, water pump, tensioners
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I would buy a timing belt kit that comes with:
water pump with gasket
auto timing belt tension adjuster
timing belt tensioner
timing belt idler
two accessory drive belts
two camshaft seals
front crankshaft seal
I just don't trust mechanics to change everything that needs to be replaced.
water pump with gasket
auto timing belt tension adjuster
timing belt tensioner
timing belt idler
two accessory drive belts
two camshaft seals
front crankshaft seal
I just don't trust mechanics to change everything that needs to be replaced.
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Hi Rice,
http://www.honda.ca/owners/honda-ser...nce-calculator
The online says 96,000km (60,000 miles) I rounded up to 100k. The manual says 100k km /60k miles or 60 months (5 years). So that's what I went with. Conditions matter as rubber breaks down faster under extreme conditions.
http://www.honda.ca/owners/honda-ser...nce-calculator
The online says 96,000km (60,000 miles) I rounded up to 100k. The manual says 100k km /60k miles or 60 months (5 years). So that's what I went with. Conditions matter as rubber breaks down faster under extreme conditions.