skunk2lude01

For anyone who is familiar with the f18b out of the honda toreo, Would my f23 manual tranny bolt up? The engine I found comes with an auto. And if you ask why a 1.8 vtec, well these motors are perfect for boost and it has less than 20k miles, I will boost 10psi daily.


Modified by skunk2lude01 at 5:08 AM 8/23/2004

Nick H

yes it will bolt up just fine

Lostcb7

what does the f18b come out of? I have never heard of such an engine.

TOAB

is it going to make enough tq for your car? 1.8L sounds kinda small and old hehe...

skunk2lude01

IT came out of a 2001 honda toreo(sp,torneo) The car it came out of is the equivalent to a honda accord/ If I wanted torque, I would get out of the scene altogether. This engine has 17k miles and I can get for less than 600. Why not. I may decide to sell it/

razaman

Nothing is wrong with the F18B engine from the torneo.

Here's the engine specs:

Displacement, cc 1849
Engine model F18B
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 140 ps (102.97 kw) / 6100 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 17.2 kg*m (168.67 N*m) / 5000 rpm
Power density 9.07
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder SOHC16 valve
Engine information VTEC horizontal ranging belt driving
Fuel system Electrically controlled gasoline injection system (HONDA PGM-FI)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.3
Bore, mm 85
Stroke, mm 81.5
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 6.8
Fuel consumption at 60 km/h, l/100km

It has 5 less HP than the F22B1 and slightly less torque but good engine for the price.

Raz

skunk2lude01

Hey thanks for the info, I know nothing about these engines, if you could lead me to any other info in english possibly referring to mods, internals etc..... it would be greatly appreciated, im still gonna build my f23, I will have one of them fully built when I get my income tax check in a few months...... I tinkered with na and the h22 for years, Im ready for some boost.


Modified by skunk2lude01 at 5:08 AM 8/23/2004

Nick M

an F22 is cheaper and has more power in some cases and more torque, why would you ever want an f18?

The_Todd

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an F22 is cheaper and has more power in some cases and more torque, why would you ever want an f18?</TD></TR></TABLE>

NTM parts more readily available/cheaper.

I thought the f22 support was bad; I could only imagine for a f18

skunk2lude01

Its funny to even say torque when it comes to 4cyl stock honda engines, do you know where I can find a f22 with anywhere near 17k miles on it for 450, it has really low compression, it revs higher as well.

Nick M

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunk2lude01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Its funny to even say torque when it comes to 4cyl stock honda engines, do you know where I can find a f22 with anywhere near 17k miles on it for 450, it has really low compression, it revs higher as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess you think there is a discernable difference in a honda motor with 17k on it as opposed to say 60k? There isnt going to be much of a difference at all. Sorry to burst your bubble. My del sol commuter car has 200,017 miles on it, doesnt burn a drop of oil, and the compression is perfect.

The F22 series motors all have low compression.

I dont understand why revving higher is a benefit? What does that have to do with anything?

Is an f22b1 a superior motor to a LS1 camaro motor because it revs higher?

v4lu3s

id say an f18 is superior to an f22 cause it revs higher

twkdCD595

I must have missed it, I am very tired afterall, but 6100 is not more than the f22 limit.

anyways I would say the r/s ratio is probably better for reving more rpm, but other than that I do not see huge benefits to the f18... unless its very cheap.

btw yeah you can find a variety of good f22's for 500 or less.

I am biased though.

skunk2lude01

Do you have a small ***** or something? This is the 300th time ive seen you arguing off topic bs. I found a good deal and all I really wanted to know is will my current tranny fit. And maybe its just me but I would rather have a 2001 engine with 17k miles versus a 10 year old f22 with god only knows how many miles on it. Im not ******* the f22 by no means, I have also had a prelude and im by no means was I impressed with the torque on it even, so to me torque is not something im looking for with a honda. Revving higher keeps you in boost longer. And it is so childish to even compare a v-8 to a 4cylinder/ not to mention the 2003 IDRC all motor world record holder. Bisi Ezeriola, guess what it says on his block? F18b. Im not saying this motor is superior to any motor, but I dont believe anyone in this post so far has anywhere near enough knowledge of this motor to be dissing it.....


Modified by skunk2lude01 at 5:41 AM 8/25/2004


Modified by skunk2lude01 at 5:43 AM 8/25/2004

v4lu3s

it should, since as far as i know all f## (except f20c) and H## engines share the same tranny bellhousings and clutches.

skunk2lude01

Thanks...

sisithaw

I'm searching for Honda F18B head bolt torques / sequence
And tappet clearance. Can someone help please?

MAD_MIKE

Don't forget the O ring for the oil feed.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...specs-2981078/
.26mm Intake
.30mm Exhaust

Rjallure42

I have a f20b head on a f18b block anyone knows what kind of of crankshaft and high compression pistons I can use in this block

MAD_MIKE

F18-F20-F22 all has the same bore.
You can probably just put F20 or F22 rotating assembly into the F18 block and be fine.

Are you keeping the tradition alive with this post?

MitchSchaft

This thread is over 15 years old lol