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Team Highway 02-01-2006 05:57 PM

F20B Motor swap
 
hey guys,
i have a 94' hond accord lx 4dr auto and i want to swap a f20b engine into it and change the tranny to manual and everything. I need help looking for one because i look online and ther a few but ther like 3 grand for everything i need for this motor swap to be successful please help me if knows where i can get one cheaper with everything i need to swap for that car for real cheap. thanks alot

cdsquad.net 02-02-2006 06:52 AM

Re: F20B Motor swap (Team Highway)
 
If you're scared to pay 3K for the motor, wait till you start breaking stuff on a motor that isn't available in the US https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

DC_RaceR 02-02-2006 02:52 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (cdsquad.net)
 
get h22

Team Highway 02-02-2006 06:34 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (DC_RaceR)
 
u can get parts for it here i just dont want to spend a shit load..i want it cheap and build it not 3k cause that would be just then engine..and the h22 wont fit the bottem of the motor will touch the ground and the f22 has more hp but less torque but i can make the torque higher and its like the same

cdsquad.net 02-02-2006 07:27 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (Team Highway)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u can get parts for it here i just dont want to spend a shit load..i want it cheap and build it not 3k cause that would be just then engine..and the h22 wont fit the bottem of the motor will touch the ground and the f22 has more hp but less torque but i can make the torque higher and its like the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

H22 not fit?!?!? I tell you what, sit around this site and READ for a few months. THEN.... come back and ask your question.

Hondaaccordvtec 02-02-2006 07:39 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (cdsquad.net)
 
F20b and H22a are basically the same motor. If the F20b will fit in your '94, then the h22a will also (trust me - I had a '94 Accord w/ a '94 JDM H22 swap done).
For parts availability ( and to keep costsw down), go with the H22 engine and call it a day.

ZigenBallz 02-02-2006 09:18 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (Hondaaccordvtec)
 
You can find complete F20B swaps for about 2k nowadays in decent conditin...

Hell you can even find complete F20B longblocks for 1k if you know where to look...

The tip is to CALL around and ask... if they don't have it or it's too pricey ask if they know any other place that hasd them in stock and you might find a deal...

Team Highway 02-04-2006 09:13 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (ZigenBallz)
 
yea if u get an h22 u have to raise ur car and get a new suspension..i now deicided either to get a type R motor or an f20b and both would kick ass but not to sure

foreverhardcor 02-04-2006 10:30 PM

Or...if you want most bang for the buck...just boost the motor in it till it blows...then find another one hahahah jk.

Honda_Accord 02-04-2006 11:06 PM

Re: F20B Motor swap (Team Highway)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u can get parts for it here i just dont want to spend a shit load..i want it cheap and build it not 3k cause that would be just then engine..and the h22 wont fit the bottem of the motor will touch the ground and the f22 has more hp but less torque but i can make the torque higher and its like the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

uh.. a f22 does not have more hp then a h22.... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif

unless i misread what u wrote..


Juccord 02-05-2006 10:04 AM

Re: (foreverhardcor)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea if u get an h22 u have to raise ur car and get a new suspension..i now deicided either to get a type R motor or an f20b and both would kick ass but not to sure</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont understand...

Team Highway 02-05-2006 03:54 PM

Re: (Juccord)
 
f20 b i meant

Team Highway 02-05-2006 04:03 PM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
my mechanic who is really good with honda cars said that i should get a type r motor witch is in acura motor and acura engines are made by honda but instead of an f20 i was thinking of gettin a type r motor but im not sure witch one to get and which one would be better for an auto 94' honda accord 4dr i would be changind the tranny and wat be better to build

JDMcb7 02-05-2006 04:17 PM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
dude .... man all i can say is you need to get a new monkeyanic mang... cause i think you and your monkeyanic is a bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbit tad confused

http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/04/pf/s.../monkey.03.jpg

philadd 02-05-2006 04:20 PM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and the h22 wont fit the bottem of the motor will touch the ground</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it won't.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea if u get an h22 u have to raise ur car and get a new suspension..i now deicided either to get a type R motor or an f20b and both would kick ass but not to sure</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to stop listening to whoever it is that is giving you this information.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my mechanic who is really good with honda cars said that i should get a type r motor witch is in acura motor and acura engines are made by honda but instead of an f20 i was thinking of gettin a type r motor but im not sure witch one to get and which one would be better for an auto 94' honda accord 4dr i would be changind the tranny and wat be better to build</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your mechanic may be good a fixing cars, but he apparently doesn't know much about swapping motors. A B18 will NOT have enough torque to move the car well, not to mention you'd have to get custom mounts and whatnot. An H22 is probably the best (and cheapest) choice.

Look... Get an H22 + tranny and call it a day. You will <U>NOT</U> have to change your suspension or raise your car.

Team Highway 02-05-2006 06:50 PM

Re: (philadd)
 
so an h22 would be the bvest chpoice..r u sure i wotn have to buy anything exept the tranny with the engine or will i have to get new shit..wat will i need

AccordRacing 02-06-2006 01:56 AM

If you can get an F20b for a good price I would say go with that. It has more HP, comes std with LSD and has higher compression (like type r's). You can usually get a pretty good price on them now adays because companies who stock them have a hard time moving them.

One draw back tho is that they are all OBDII ..

Juccord 02-06-2006 07:10 AM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
I think Team Highway should read up a little more bout these motors and then decide what he wants instead of relying on other peoples opinions and potential getting taken advantage of by others. Its not good to jump into something like motor swap. only in my opinion

philadd 02-06-2006 08:19 AM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Highway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so an h22 would be the bvest chpoice..r u sure i wotn have to buy anything exept the tranny with the engine or will i have to get new shit..wat will i need</TD></TR></TABLE>

Scroll down in the Guide to basic accords thread that's stickied at the top of the forum. It has a parts list and brief how-to for the swap.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Juccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think Team Highway should read up a little more bout these motors and then decide what he wants instead of relying on other peoples opinions and potential getting taken advantage of by others. Its not good to jump into something like motor swap. only in my opinion</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with you... but at the same time, at least he's not trying to boost his stock motor w/o any knowledge of FI whatsoever. Those are the people (and their motors) I would worry about the most.

Team Highway 02-06-2006 04:37 PM

Re: (philadd)
 
dude im just askin for oppinions cause i dont want to swap somthin ill regret so gettin oppinions is a good idea to see wat will be the best choice for my car..im confused about some cause people are tellin me to get an h22,f20b, or a type r and idk wat would be the best choice..cause i heard that if i get an h22 i will have to get a new suspension and its not worth it and then i heard that the type r wont pull my car and then i heard it would and im gettin mad cause idk wat to get im gettin different oppinions and i thought it would be helpful to get a few oppinions on cars

Team Highway 02-06-2006 05:11 PM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
If you swap an h22 in a 94' hond accord lx auto 4dr will i end up boteming out and losing my oil pan? cause i heard id have to get a whole new suspension but i will eventualy do that after the swap but not till like a year later..thnx

philadd 02-06-2006 06:05 PM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
Team Highway,

I wasn't trying to look down on you, or anything like that, so I apologize if my comments came off that way.

But like I said before, whoever is giving you all that information is flat-out wrong. Let me repeat/rephrase what I said earlier. If you swap an H22 into your Accord, you will not have any greater risk of bottoming out the motor than with the F22. An H22 does NOT sit any lower than an F22. You will NOT need a new suspension.

Team Highway 02-07-2006 04:00 PM

Re: (philadd)
 
sweet dude thnx..yea people are tellin me to get h22 and then others are like nah if u end up botteming out and ur oil pan is 50 yards behind u dont come callin me i was like w.e ive asked several people and they said it wont do that

momstaxi 02-07-2006 06:57 PM

Re: (Team Highway)
 
they could be reffering to h22 civic swaps with reduced ground clearance...

notoriousB 02-08-2006 05:38 AM

Re: (momstaxi)
 
an H22 is the SAME SIZE and just about the same weight as an F series motor. There is no clearance or suspension problem swapping it into an accord chassis.

F20B while nice for the bling factor, may be a bitch if it breaks. I say USDM H22 all the way for ease of swap & parts availability.

whoever told you to install the type RRrrrrr into a 5th gen accord doesn't know WTF they're talking about.



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