jdadams12

1992 Accord Auto, 360K miles, stock.

If the transmission went out, wouldn't the car still start?

I was going along like normal and all of a sudden, the car would shutter at highway speed if I was not coasting or aggressively accelerating. If I was just cruising, it would shutter. If I accelerated, it would shift fine all the way up with no issues until I tried to cruise. Over about 10 miles it got significantly worse. All of a sudden, I was going up a hill and it shuttered and then it died. No amount of gas would keep it going. Now, it won't even start.

Seems to me like the tranny was going out, even though the fluid is nice and red and not burnt- I change the fluid ever time that I change oil since this is my 3rd tranny and they seem to last longer with fresh fluid. However, it is wired that that it won't start now.

Ideas? Thanks.

jdadams12

BTW - no codes either from the ECM or TCU... nothing.

jdadams12

Anybody?

TurboBB2

Doesn't sound like the transmission.. not much to go on.

What does it do when you try to start? just the motor try to turn over or is the ignition just clicking away.

jdadams12

It just cranks. Every one in a while, it will sputter.

It is similar to when I got a code 9 a few months, back and put on a new distro. No codes this time though. I suppose that I could try a new distro... again since I have heard that the aftermarket ones are mostly trash.

TurboBB2

Isn't code 9 the cylinder position sensor? I think so... i dont think that code has anything to do with distributor but i could be wrong.

TurboBB2

ah, found manual for code but i guess that doesnt help your current issue..

http://www.racinghonda.com/preludeMa...f100/6-160.pdf

TurboBB2

that is a ton of miles on your car.

pull each plug wire and check if you have spark. Also, you have gas too right (i have to ask.. lol) but with that many miles it could be the fuel pump.. mine went out at 162k miles in my lude..

maybe try checking the fuel pressure, or quirt starter fluid up the intake while trying to start it (takes two people). Just be careful cause sometimes a flame could shoot out. If it starts you know its a fuel issue.

jdadams12

I could hear the fuel pump prime, but did not check the pressure. Fuel filter was new about 20k miles or so.

I have to go to 500K. This car is awesome other than something like this every few years, which usually ends up being relative cheap, even though last time it left me stranded was a few months ago with the distro. Also, I just filled the tank up about 10 miles before it quit me and I have to get my 400 miles out of that tank!

I am going to put the DMM on the distro sensors when I get home. I will check the fuel pressure too.

I appreciate your help and will post my findings. Maybe if I crank it some more, it will throw a code.

TurboBB2

No problem, let me know what you find out

jdadams12

Turns out it was the rotor, broken and twisted... and I had an extra one on hand. It makes sense now that the shudder that I felt was when the spark would not arc across the ever increasing distance. However, I have no idea why it ran fine while accelerating or coasting. It totally felt like a tranny going out.

In any case, I am back on my way to 500K. Thanks.

jdadams12

Turns out it was the rotor, broken and twisted... and I had an extra one on hand. It makes sense now that the shudder that I felt was when the spark would not arc across the ever increasing distance. However, I have no idea why it ran fine while accelerating or coasting. It totally felt like a tranny going out.

In any case, I am back on my way to 500K. Thanks.

TurboBB2

yea gotta be careful with parts from advance and autozone lol.. in my experience ive received more working, reliable parts form ebay than i have those stores...

500k what a goal lol. I hope you make it!!!

lpina650

ya it doesn't sound like the trans to me. i was thinking more of bad injectors

midtown77

Hello all, newbie here. Looking to pick your brain(s) about an issue that I am currently dealing with. I've got a 2000 Accord, 152k, A/T.

Here is what its doing:

Rough Shifting when its cold, smooths out when it warms up.

When driving at speeds upwards of 20mph, I notice there is a whine.. seems to be coming from the passenger side. As the speed increases, the whine gets a lil louder. Its not terribly loud, but loud enough where its noticeable.

I've replaced the transmission once before.
Also, I changed the driveshaft on the passenger side. (was told to try that & have a spare set of driveshafts in the garage) and that didn't do anything to alleviate the whine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

jdadams12

You might start 2 separate threads on this... one for the tranny and one for the whine.

Without knowing too much more, the whine could be the brakes wearing out. I cannot remember if the honda pads have wear/whine indicators on them. Does it whine when you touch the brakes?

The transmission could be resolved by changing the fluid. Do it twice with 40-50 miles of driving inbetween. These transmissions can last with fresh fluid, and wear out quick with old fluid.

midtown77

Unfortunately, due to my newbie status... I can't start any threads.

The whine is noticeable when driving.
Doesn't whine when the brakes are applied.
The pads looked ok, at least 50% still on them.
Trans fluid is pretty new.
Can't remember, but is the filter in the tranny or accessible from underneath?

Thanks for your help so far!

jdadams12

Jack the car up where it is stable and shake the wheel.

If the wheel is loose, then it is likely the wheel bearing.

If the wheel is solid, then the whine is likely the brakes then. Get some new pads, some cleaner and install them with some quieting compound like disc brake quiet. Clean the crap out of the calipers before you install the new pads. Then, follow the directions on the disc brake quieting compound.

Change out the tranny fuild with the appropriate amount (check your manual) of Honda Z1 or Castrol Z Import tranny fluid. Do this twice. It will require more than 1 change since you get roughly half each time...

TurboBB2

It could be your tire.. but i really don't know what it sounds like so im pretty much guessing.. but you could check the camber, caster and your toe at a wheel shop. have any tire work done recently?

TurboBB2

oh, and tire sound is usually more like a wooh-wooh-wooh-wooh-wooh.. sound.. if that makes sense.

TurboBB2

check your power steering too, that can create a low winding sound when its low on fluid while driving.

midtown77

I'll check those out this afternoon. Thanks for the suggestions!

midtown77

Oh, does anyone know where I can download a dealer style repair guide for a 1998 Civic & 2000 Accord ?

WickedWayz

Newbie here also, so cant start a new thread. I have a 92 Accord LX manual tranny. Last year I replaced the right CV, including the seal, a month ago I replaced the left cv, seal included. Still clicking when I turn right. Mechanic told me to drive a week, if it was still happening to bring it back. I brought it back, they replaced the CV again, but the clicking has not gone away. Took it back in and they told me it was my tranny going out. When I question why it only clicks when I turn right, they said they were not sure. Now, 3 weeks later, it still clicks when I turn right, and occasionally continues the clicking after the turn is completed. The only time it does NOT click is when I make the right turn with the car in neutral and the clutch pushed in. Lots of miles on my car, but after having the whole top half of the engine rebuilt last year, new clutch 2 years ago, and both CV's, not exactly willing to give up yet. Anyone ever hear of a tranny clicking as it goes out? Mechanic said something about the differential..don't know exactly what he said said since I was kind of numb after hearing bad tranny.... Honda wants a bill to tell me yes or no or maybe. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

HonBeer

Dont hijack threads!! Start your own. Even a caveman can do it.