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wesk18 10-15-2009 02:00 AM

advice on clutches
 
i was wondering what clutch kit as excellent peformance n to buy?
i've seen some in ebay an xtr they have 3 different stages.

bseriescrxsi 10-15-2009 05:59 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 
what do you have done to your car that you would want more then even a stage 1...instead of just a 4 puck stock replacement

GhostAccord 10-15-2009 10:02 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 
x2
What are your mods? What is the car going to be used for? What are your Hp goals?

reaction360 10-15-2009 10:17 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 
I've never used one of those ebay xtr clutches, but we've seen some people come through the shop with them and did not have much luck even on NA cars haha. They were there to buy better clutches.

I have just a cheap oem replacement clutch in mine. been good to me for about a year now. My f22 is pretty stock with just bolt ons but i do beat the crap out of it =)

wesk18 10-16-2009 10:31 PM

Re: advice on clutches
 

Originally Posted by bseriescrxsi (Post 40301373)
what do you have done to your car that you would want more then even a stage 1...instead of just a 4 puck stock replacement

yea i was thinking of stage 1 or 2 something better than stock to feel a slight difference from oem to aftermarket.
i currently have headers, aem intake on it, going to chip the ecu, and maybe change the cam gear n camshaft(bisi).
not intending to race or anything just want my car to be somewhat fast.

Targa250R 10-17-2009 04:57 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 

Originally Posted by wesk18 (Post 40323281)
yea i was thinking of stage 1 or 2 something better than stock to feel a slight difference from oem to aftermarket.
i currently have headers, aem intake on it, going to chip the ecu, and maybe change the cam gear n camshaft(bisi).
not intending to race or anything just want my car to be somewhat fast.

A clutch doesn't make your car faster unless your current clutch is worn out or slipping under massive torque applications. Considering that you aren't making much if any more torque than a stock engine (which you aren't unless you forgot to tell us about the high-boost forced induction and the nitrous oxide), installing a clutch with a higher friction level and clamping force will only make the car more of a pain in the ass to drive and transmit more shock to the drivetrain, in addition to making your wallet lighter.

If you like driving in traffic with a clutch that works like an on/off switch and breaking engine mounts and differentials, then by all means get the clutch with the highest "stage number" (what a joke those are) and snazziest marketing buzzword name that you can find.

If you wanted to make the smartest move, you'd get an Exedy/Daikin OE replacement clutch kit, or an Exedy Racing organic kit at the most. Exedy/Daikin is the most trusted name in import clutches and is relied upon by most Japanese auto manufacturers to make OE clutches - there's a reason for that.

When replacing the clutch, you'll need a new friction disc, pressure plate, and release bearing. Don't forget to have the flywheel resurfaced at a local machine shop if you aren't replacing it.

AndyD 10-17-2009 06:58 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 

Originally Posted by wesk18 (Post 40323281)
yea i was thinking of stage 1 or 2 something better than stock to feel a slight difference from oem to aftermarket.
i currently have headers, aem intake on it, going to chip the ecu, and maybe change the cam gear n camshaft(bisi).
not intending to race or anything just want my car to be somewhat fast.

If that's the case, I recommend an OEM Exedy replacement clutch.

uberEFtuner 10-17-2009 09:14 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 
I did a stage one clutch with a light weight flywheel. The flywheel was big mistake. Perhaps on a dyno it would put out more HP but it killed my torque. The stage one clutch is nice, it just feels nice and tight. I bought my kit from AIM clutch co. I,m happier than a pig in shi*

As far as ebay sales go: 1. Only buy from someone with 95% and higher feed back

2. Read feedback and see if the negative are comments about crappy product, or if some idiot is complaining about how something looks etc.

3. Make sure the part isn't $10 AND SHIPPING IS $100

4. Make sure they are an authorized dealer

P_Adams 10-17-2009 09:52 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 

Originally Posted by wesk18 (Post 40300622)
i was wondering what clutch kit as excellent peformance n to buy?
i've seen some in ebay an xtr they have 3 different stages.

Wes:
I'd take a few hours and research what's offered thru reputable web based stores before I would commit to an EBay purchase. Pay particular attention to the brands they offer. If you can find one of the "National Brands" on an Ebay site, THEN I'd consider it.

There's a lot of "Private label' stuff on EBay which you don't see elsewhere.
Often, this is repackaging of obsolete (Last seasons) stuff no longer in production. In worst cases, these are kits (clutch kits in this case) cobbled together with parts from different manufacturers.

All I'm suggesting is "Buyer Beware"

If you're intended purpose is a mild performance boost, I'd avoid the biggest baddest selection available. You don't need the heavy clutch application pressures and the associated leg cramps that come with it.
I'd also suggest having the flywheel surface ground to eliminate high/hot spots and to avoid chattering complaints.

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Targa250R 10-17-2009 10:01 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 

Originally Posted by P_Adams (Post 40325914)
There's a lot of "Private label' stuff on EBay which you don't see elsewhere.
Often, this is repackaging of obsolete (Last seasons) stuff no longer in production. In worst cases, these are kits (clutch kits in this case) cobbled together with parts from different manufacturers.

There is also a high incidence of counterfeit product being sold on eBay. Exedy released a guide to aid in spotting a fake Exedy/Daikin clutch, and it's rather frightening how close in appearance that the fakes are to the genuine article.

P_Adams 10-17-2009 10:05 AM

Re: advice on clutches
 

Originally Posted by Targa250R (Post 40325981)
There is also a high incidence of counterfeit product being sold on eBay. Exedy released a guide to aid in spotting a fake Exedy/Daikin clutch, and it's rather frightening how close in appearance that the fakes are to the genuine article.

Totally agree. And the insidious part of all this is you can't inspect the packaging until you've got it in your hands.... and then it's too late.
"Let the Games Begin" will be the mantra when you attempt to return it :(

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Janet@bisimoto 10-22-2009 04:04 PM

Re: advice on clutches
 
Like into Action Clutch. There manufactured in the U.S.


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