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janelectric 08-28-2005 01:11 PM

1991 Accord speed indicator
 
First S green light came on blinking
Second orange "check engine " light illuminated
Third , the speed indicator needle began to oscillate
Fourth, the speed indicator shows zero
Car appears to run fine.
Any ideas, recommendations?


deserthonda 08-28-2005 04:22 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (janelectric)
 
sounds like u could have a bad v.s.sensor...

Ghostyman 08-28-2005 10:19 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (janelectric)
 
Make sure the problem is the speed sensor. Check the ECU code and it should be 17. To check the code, check http://www.c-speedracing.com/faq/06.php

If so, I'm having the same problem in the same car. I bought a new speed sensor on eBay for $23.95 but I haven't installed in yet.

In fact, I'm having trouble finding where it goes. It's embarassing because I just put this tranny in about a year ago and I thought I remembered how the speed sensor apparatus was set up. Any tips on installing new speed sensors?

kulrevon 08-29-2005 08:48 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (janelectric)
 
Ussually if the intake isnt in the way it is easier to reach. but it depends on if you got the whole unit with the gear or just the sensor. either one its a few 10 mm bolts that hole it on.

I have on for sale of an f22 tranny if needed.

Ghostyman 08-29-2005 08:16 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (kulrevon)
 
I finally got around to replacing my speed sensor. It's not too bad if you know what to do (which I didn't) https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Here's how I replaced the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) in my 1991 Honda Accord LX:

0. Disconnect battery.

1. Remove the air intake.

2. Remove the two 12mm bolts that hold the rearmost transmission cable bracket. You don't have to disconnect the cable (although it wouldn't hurt) but disconnect the bracket so you can move it slightly out of the way and it gives you much easier access to one of the VSS bolts. This is the step that will save you much time and energy.

3. Remove the two 10mm bolts that hold the VSS in. One of the bolts is also holding a bracket that the 3-pin cable hooks onto.

4. Disconnect the 3-pin cable from the bracket and the cable that it plugs into.

5. Remove the VSS and the little pin that sticks out the bottom (I don't know what it's called.)

6. Put the new little pin into the hole on the tranny and install the VSS over it.

7. Rebolt the VSS, transmission cables, and air intake. Reconnect battery.

I hope this helps someone.

- The Heep


Modified by the heep at 9:36 PM 8/29/2005

Ghostyman 08-30-2005 12:54 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (the heep)
 
Follow-up:

Replacing my speed sensor was the greatest thing I've done since I've owned this car. Not only does the speedometer work, but my idle speed seems to have raised by about 200rpm (thus solving my low idle problem) and for some reason, my cruise control works again.

I'm really surprised about the cruise control because it hasn't worked since I've owned the car and the speed sensor has only been out for a few months.

carlos1991 01-04-2010 09:21 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 
hey guys im having the same problem wit my vss but i cant seem to find it can anyone help me thanks

gr00ve 07-12-2012 10:51 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (kulrevon)
 

Originally Posted by Ghostyman (Post 17288531)
3. Remove the two 10mm bolts that hold the VSS in. One of the bolts is also holding a bracket that the 3-pin cable hooks onto.

Damn. This one sounds so easy. :D Cannot manage to get the socket over the bolt, as the bracket is very close to the bolt head. any tips?

BR
gr00ve

gr00ve 07-14-2012 11:48 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 

Originally Posted by carlos1991 (Post 41130081)
hey guys im having the same problem wit my vss but i cant seem to find it can anyone help me thanks

what is your engine?

I have 2.0 carb. and the vss is -- when you stand next to the passenger, front tire -- look down the left side of the tranny. right under air intake pipe. I think it was the only thing there with wires connected. may be with 2 small pipes leading to it.

check this one out.
http://techauto.awardspace.com/vss.html

BR
gr00ve

90LXaccord 07-16-2012 07:39 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (kulrevon)
 

Originally Posted by gr00ve (Post 47601964)
Damn. This one sounds so easy. :D Cannot manage to get the socket over the bolt, as the bracket is very close to the bolt head. any tips?

BR
gr00ve

Any luck gr00ve getting your apart?

I have the same problem here. I got it all out of the way but there isnt enough clearance around the bolt to get a 3/8" drive 10mm socket on it. I've applied pressure to the bracket to try and bend it as flat as possible still no luck.

I am going to try a 1/4" 10mm and see if that is a bit slimmer.

Travler 08-10-2012 09:00 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (kulrevon)
 
My 3/8" drive fit over the 10mm bolts okay. Ghostyman's tip to unbolt the transmission cable bracket was a big help.

The hardest part for me was getting the 3-pin cable unplugged without breaking the female side. A small nail ended up doing the trick.

jdmcertified909 08-10-2012 10:22 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 
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people people ******remove the bracket****** that attaches to the support on the back of the engine. its one bolt and a nut to remove this bracket this will solve all your problems

gr00ve 08-13-2012 08:26 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator (kulrevon)
 

Originally Posted by 90LXaccord (Post 47616117)
Any luck gr00ve getting your apart?

I have the same problem here. I got it all out of the way but there isnt enough clearance around the bolt to get a 3/8" drive 10mm socket on it. I've applied pressure to the bracket to try and bend it as flat as possible still no luck.

I am going to try a 1/4" 10mm and see if that is a bit slimmer.

No. Didnīt manage to get it out.
tried everything I could possibly think of.
Will take 10mm socket and slim it down a bit, and then see, what happens. Should work like this.

I just want to take it out to see, if everything is ok. Mine has intermittent speedo problem. One time works, another not. Couldnīt be bad connection, checked it. I think it could be because the car has been standing in garage for a while.

What comes in the two small pipes? oil, or cooling?

BR from Iceland

gr00ve 08-13-2012 08:28 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 

Originally Posted by jdmcertified909 (Post 47719425)
people people ******remove the bracket****** that attaches to the support on the back of the engine. its one bolt and a nut to remove this bracket this will solve all your problems

the picture you showed is a different model.
Mine has the connector on the bracket, seperate from the vss body, so there is a bracket coming along the body of the vss. bolted to the inner bolt. There is the problem. Bracket is too close to the bolt head.

BR

jdmcertified909 08-13-2012 12:57 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 
what year? what model? how many cylinders?

jdmcertified909 08-13-2012 01:00 PM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 
are you guys using 1/4 inch drive socket????? if so your doing it wrong you need 3/8 socket with extension and 3/8 wrench

gr00ve 08-20-2012 02:52 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 

Originally Posted by jdmcertified909 (Post 47727914)
what year? what model? how many cylinders?

year: 1991 CB3 EX
engine: F20A2, 2.0L carb, 4cyl SOHC


Originally Posted by jdmcertified909 (Post 47727914)
are you guys using 1/4 inch drive socket????? if so your doing it wrong you need 3/8 socket with extension and 3/8 wrench

tried all of them. :D
the picture above is not the same as I have.

jdmcertified909 08-20-2012 07:29 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 
oh you have the f20a2 weird my 91 has a f22a4 in it *edit* mine is an lx maybe thats y but my 90 accord has a f22a6 in the ex

gr00ve 08-27-2012 06:04 AM

Re: 1991 Accord speed indicator
 

Originally Posted by jdmcertified909 (Post 47753850)
oh you have the f20a2 weird my 91 has a f22a4 in it *edit* mine is an lx maybe thats y but my 90 accord has a f22a6 in the ex

Yeah. F20A2 is what I have. :D I could take a pic of what VSS I have if anyone iis interested.

I live in Iceland! lots of different shi* cars can be found only here in the world. :D


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