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Old 10-20-2005, 08:36 PM
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im looking to get new tires, i;'ve been looking at falken ZE-512 in 195/65/14...from i learned my stock steelies r 5in. wide, is 195 to wide for a 5inch rims?
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

if anything i would think they would be too thin.
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (Integra_drk)

I have 195/60/15 on my 97 Accord. It is lowered 1.5" and the next set of tires that I am getting will be 205/55/15 so you will not have any problems.
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i think u guys misunderstood the question..im not asking if its to wide for my fenderwell, im asking if the tire is too wide for the width of my rim...i wunt to go from my stock 185 tire to a 195 but keep the stock steelies, and was wundering if 195 will be too wide of a tire for my stock 5inch wide rim
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

I am still on my stock steelies if that answers your question.
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that will clear the fenders fine
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how muchs is your car lowered becuase im running 195 50 16s on my car and its fine. so wuts the problem?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by standaloneaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how muchs is your car lowered becuase im running 195 50 16s on my car and its fine. so wuts the problem?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricerocketdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have 195/60/15 on my 97 Accord. It is lowered 1.5" and the next set of tires that I am getting will be 205/55/15 so you will not have any problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine does not rub at all. One of the reasons that I will be going to a wider tire.
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I'm running 205/40/17's and lowered on eibach kit...my front 2 tires got alot of camber wear in like 8 months ...
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for 5th gen cars it goes something like this for stock wheels

185 70r14
195 60r15

if you want to keep the same diameter for 16"

205 50r16

they will alll fit with no issues
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that will clear the fenders fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

holyshit...*hits head against wall* expletive it i'll just ask les scwab
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure they would fit on the rim, but they might not look so good on the rim because they will have to spread out a lot between the short distance from the rim to the road. They will also be a different diameter, which will change speedometer and other factors. Check out tirerack.com they have specs for the tires. (diameter, rim size, etc.) I think 195 is the profile number. 65 would be the width number. They kind of combine to make the actual tire size. You should get something that will fit your rim and be about the same diameter as the stock tires. You should be able to go with a slightly wider tire, but I would not get something that is much shorter than stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>

u shiting me? wut r u talking bout...195 is the width...65 is the profile...its less then 1% dif then my stock diameter which is a 185/70...expletive it, sumone delete this post i'll just go ask a damn tire store
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Originally Posted by BLKFLSH
I'm sure they would fit on the rim, but they might not look so good on the rim because they will have to spread out a lot between the short distance from the rim to the road. They will also be a different diameter, which will change speedometer and other factors. Check out tirerack.com they have specs for the tires. (diameter, rim size, etc.) I think 195 is the profile number. 65 would be the width number. They kind of combine to make the actual tire size. You should get something that will fit your rim and be about the same diameter as the stock tires. You should be able to go with a slightly wider tire, but I would not get something that is much shorter than stock.
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195 is the profile (distance from the rim to the road) 65 is the tread width (the part that is touching the ground). Did you check the diameters on tirerack.com? some tires with the same exact numbers have different diameters.
WRONG and WRONG

195 for example is the width of the tire in mm and the 60 is height it the tire in mm.

For example I got all this info from tire rack. Also like I said before I am running 195/60/15 on my stock steel wheels....so this will work for you assuming that you have a 94-97 Accord.

Here are a few links with some information you may find useful.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ge=45

Section Width

Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.

P225/50R16 91S

The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).

225mm ¿ 25.4 = 8.86"

Sidewall Aspect Ratio

Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 ¿ 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.


Tire and Wheel Diameter

P225/50R16 91S

The 16 indicates the tire and wheel diameter designed to be matched together.

Tires that have a rim diameter expressed in inches (P225/50R16, as well as 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26 and 28) are called "inch rim" sizes, are the most common type of tire size and are used on most cars, minivans, vans, sport utility vehicles and light duty light trucks.

While not as common, two additional "unique" types of tire/wheel diameters are still in use today.

Tires and wheels that have a rim diameter expressed in "half" inches (8.00R16.5LT, as well as, 14.5, 15.5, 17.5 and 19.5) are used on some heavy-duty trailers, heavy-duty light trucks and box vans.

Tires and wheels that have a rim diameter expressed in millimeters (190/65R390, as well as, 365 and 415) are called millimetric sizes. Michelin initiated millimetric sizes for their TRX tires that saw limited use on many different car models in the late 1970s and 1980s.

Michelin PAX System run flat tires have been introduced as an integrated wheel/tire system on a very limited basis as Original Equipment (O.E.) in North America. An example PAX System size of 235/710R460A 104T expresses tire and wheel dimensions in millimeters (235 mm Section Width, tire Overall Diameter of 710 mm and a 460A mm rim diameter, with the "A" in 460A signifying these tires feature ¿asymmetric¿ beads in which the outside bead (450 mm) and inside bead (470 mm) are actually different diameters.

All of these "unique" tire/wheel diameters were developed specifically because the tire and wheel design or intended vehicle use required them to be different than conventional tires and wheels. All of these tires and wheels feature bead profiles that have a different shape than traditional "inch rim" sizes.

Tires and wheels with unique rim diameters should never be combined with traditional "inch rim" tires and wheels.

It is critical that the tire and wheel diameters are always confirmed to match before the tire is mounted on the wheel.
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (ricerocketdave)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricerocketdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WRONG and WRONG

195 for example is the width of the tire in mm and the 60 is height it the tire in mm.

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sidewall is not measured in mm, its a RATIO of the width of the tire. for example a 295/35 tire will have the same 102.5mm sidewall as a 205/50...
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

195 is the width of tires that comes on your car when you get it so you should be fine

ive got 205/60/15 on mine and its pefectly fine and i have about a 2 inch drop

the wider the tire you get the lower profile (ie: 60,55,45,40...etc) you must get. Ive got a friend that runs 235s with 17s and its pefectly fine.

my 2 cents get a lil bit more wide of a tire will give you a lil more grip on the road

i have those tires on my 5th gen as well, best bang for the buck, just dont drive like a speed demon and taking turns at 50mph
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aZnAcCoRd02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">195 is the width of tires that comes on your car when you get it so you should be fine

ive got 205/60/15 on mine and its pefectly fine and i have about a 2 inch drop

the wider the tire you get the lower profile (ie: 60,55,45,40...etc) you must get. Ive got a friend that runs 235s with 17s and its pefectly fine.

my 2 cents get a lil bit more wide of a tire will give you a lil more grip on the road

i have those tires on my 5th gen as well, best bang for the buck, just dont drive like a speed demon and taking turns at 50mph </TD></TR></TABLE>

c'mon...serioiusly guys...do u guys not read an of the post on here before u make a post?...1-8-motherfucking-5 is my sotck width, i WANT 195s for the extra rubber and grip..but im not sure if it will fit on my FFFFIIIIIIVVVVEEEEE IIIINNNNCCCCHHHH WWWWIIIIDDDDEEE rim....and dunno if this seems like a newb question, but all everyone else is doing is asnwering my question like i dunt kno how to properly siuze a tire...i kno how to read sizewalls, i just wunna kno if i can ******* fit a 195 on a 5inch wide rim!
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

On the specs for 195/65/14 it gives you a rim with of 5.5"-7.5". Tires will pobably look strange on 5" rims.
From tirerack.com
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yea, i already read dat on tirerack, was just wunderin if anyone ever pushed it and put it on a 5in..but thanks for the only REAL answer blkflsh...
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

You would probably have to get one mounted to see for sure, but it would bulge out a lot from the rim. Some people like that look, but it's kind of opposite what everybody is going for these days (big rims-small tires).
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (BLKFLSH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You would probably have to get one mounted to see for sure, but it would bulge out a lot from the rim. Some people like that look, but it's kind of opposite what everybody is going for these days (big rims-small tires).</TD></TR></TABLE>

bulge isnt just a cosmetic thing....they can (minimally) help to protect the wheel from curbage
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

you will need to move to 15" rims in order to use a 195mm width tire on an accord. If you use a 195 70r 14 tire it will throw off your speedo as the tire is a different diameter than the one you are replacing.


185 70r14
195 60r15

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205 50r16 all have the same overall diameter (within acceptable limits)

Therefore they will all fit on a 5th gen Accord just fine and no need to recalibrate your speedo or ECU for the larger diameter.

If you go much wider than 205 you run the risk of having things start rubbing and that is not good.
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dats why im goin to use a 65 aspect ratio dipshyt, read before u post and u wuda known that...i KNOW how to properly size a rim, im aware of the effects of diferent diameters
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

195mm = 7.8" or so....

i guess it would fit...but i would bulge like hell, and then possibly cauase the sidewalls to be weakend (cause they would be bowed out so much)

honestly though....go to your local tire store. just ask a person there. they will have definitive knoweldge as to wether or not it will fit...this type of thing only comes from experience...

unless you've tried squeezing that size tire onto a 5" rim, your not gonna know whether or not it will work
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fw190bvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
unless you've tried squeezing that size tire onto a 5" rim, your not gonna know whether or not it will work</TD></TR></TABLE>

dats why i posted here, i was thinking maybe sumone tried that size on a stock steelie already and they can tell me how it went
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Default Re: 195, too wide? (goowakjai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goowakjai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dats why i posted here, i was thinking maybe sumone tried that size on a stock steelie already and they can tell me how it went</TD></TR></TABLE>

ovbiously no one who has tried that has seen this thread

fact of the matter is with that narrow and small of a wheel, keeping stock tire size w/ better rubber is gonna be just as good as adding an extra cm to the contact patch


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