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Old 05-07-2019, 01:13 PM
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Default WTF is going on with Iran?

Suddenly weíre moving carrier strike groups and B-52ís to the region in response to some threat?

someone want to clue me in?
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:23 PM
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From reporting last night, Pompeo said they have reason to believe Iran is escalating threats against US allies.

I haven’t seen anything additional.
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I mean we did ruin their economy so I'm sure they hate us. Plus trump wants a war for the lolz, so it is all whatever at this point.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:25 PM
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That war with Venezuela didn't pan out
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Ps. We haven’t had a SecDef for months. We really could use one.
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Nah, it's better to not have a Secretary of Defense so that we can call more 'national emergencies' with less resistance.
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Originally Posted by GS'D YA View Post
That war with Venezuela didn't pan out
recently we haven't been doing so hot in the regime change game.
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That war with Venezuela didn't pan out

Guess not but hey look at this


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It looks and feels like a diversion to me.
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Yes, waste resource/fuel/personelle to troll peeps
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We’re still using b52s?

My my grandpa worked on them when he was in the USAF.
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Old 05-07-2019, 04:24 PM
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Weíre still using b52s?

My my grandpa worked on them when he was in the USAF.
Will still be using them until at least 2050
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It looks and feels like a diversion to me.
When the Monica deal blew up, Clinton unloaded some rockets in the Middle East. So news got o focus on the war, no?
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Isn't there always a carrier group in the region?
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Will still be using them until at least 2050
Thats insane. Thatís 98 years of service.
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Old 05-08-2019, 03:49 AM
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Isn't there always a carrier group in the region?
This administration has engaged in a disengagement for quite some time.

You might recall that it was controversial, and that it caused criticism from inside, and even caused some resignations.

This deployment was so sudden that it caught the Pentagon on the back foot, and there was some uncharacteristic confusion and an unusual number of conversations.

Remember that it is a goal of this administration to see the failure of the Iran deal. When the United States pulled out, it was frustrating that Iran did not, and that the other signatories did not.

Now, however, this administration has threatened economic sanctions against any country continuing to trade with Iran.

This has caused Iran to tell the signatories to the deal that they have 60 days to find a way for Iran to survive economically, or Iran will withdraw from the deal and go back to the active development of a nuclear weapons program.

At at the same time this is developing, Saudi successes in the Yemen have placed the Houthi movement at risk. Iran is running out of ways to support them without sending Iranian forces, and the intelligence that we are being told is that some bright bunny has decided to start moving Iranian IRBM around the theatre in order to support their effort in the Yemen War, and in order to provide an implicit threat to US and UK forces scattered around installations around the area.

If this is true then the deployment of a carrier strike group makes sense.

The intelligence has come to us through means not connected to the Pentagon, which is unusual, and this is why they were caught unawares. It is usually the Pentagon telling the White House about an intelligence break but in this case it was the White House telling the Pentagon.

The B52 deployment might hint at developing plans for a more wholesale, possibly strategic response if it looks like Iran plans something ultimately stupid.

Even while the UK are engaging the administration, there are signs that an Astute class will assist US forces by providing an addition strike platform.
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I offer a counter point.

When an administration sends pallets of cash to Iran, and then a few years later Palestinians fire rockets into Israel, maybe the two are connected? Perhaps the new President is doing something about it.
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GoLowDrew View Post
When the Monica deal blew up, Clinton unloaded some rockets in the Middle East. So news got o focus on the war, no?
That was different.

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Thats insane. Thatís 98 years of service.

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Old 05-08-2019, 04:53 AM
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This administration has engaged in a disengagement for quite some time.

You might recall that it was controversial, and that it caused criticism from inside, and even caused some resignations.

This deployment was so sudden that it caught the Pentagon on the back foot, and there was some uncharacteristic confusion and an unusual number of conversations.

Remember that it is a goal of this administration to see the failure of the Iran deal. When the United States pulled out, it was frustrating that Iran did not, and that the other signatories did not.

Now, however, this administration has threatened economic sanctions against any country continuing to trade with Iran.

This has caused Iran to tell the signatories to the deal that they have 60 days to find a way for Iran to survive economically, or Iran will withdraw from the deal and go back to the active development of a nuclear weapons program.

At at the same time this is developing, Saudi successes in the Yemen have placed the Houthi movement at risk. Iran is running out of ways to support them without sending Iranian forces, and the intelligence that we are being told is that some bright bunny has decided to start moving Iranian IRBM around the theatre in order to support their effort in the Yemen War, and in order to provide an implicit threat to US and UK forces scattered around installations around the area.

If this is true then the deployment of a carrier strike group makes sense.

The intelligence has come to us through means not connected to the Pentagon, which is unusual, and this is why they were caught unawares. It is usually the Pentagon telling the White House about an intelligence break but in this case it was the White House telling the Pentagon.

The B52 deployment might hint at developing plans for a more wholesale, possibly strategic response if it looks like Iran plans something ultimately stupid.

Even while the UK are engaging the administration, there are signs that an Astute class will assist US forces by providing an addition strike platform.
Iran isn't the one planning to do something stupid.

The US is actively doing something stupid.
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we have to strike first to make sure Iran doesn't invade the USA!!!!
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Old 05-08-2019, 05:02 AM
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we have to strike first to make sure Iran doesn't invade the USA!!!!
For our national security we need to prop up the country that backed 9/11 but we must also simultaneously weaken their counterpart in influence over the region.

That seems like a recipe for success. Last I checked removing Iraq as a counterbalance for Saudi Arabia didn't lead to an illegal war by the Saudis in Yemen.

Right?
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Old 05-08-2019, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Caoboy View Post
Thats insane. Thatís 98 years of service.
It is ending its life as a stand-off missile platform with lots of ECM, so it's still going strong.
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Remember that time John Bolton promised regime change in Iran during a speech in 2017?



"I had said for over 10 years since coming to these events, that the declared policy of the United States of America should be the overthrow of the mullahs' regime in Tehran. The behavior and the objectives of the regime are not going to change, and therefore the only solution is to change the regime itself.

And that's why, before 2019, we here will celebrate in Tehran!"
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Old 05-08-2019, 05:33 AM
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And that's why, before 2019, we here will celebrate in Tehran!"
But it's already 2019, so he was probably only kidding.
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