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Old 04-19-2017, 10:51 AM   #1
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Walmart’s low-wage workers cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $6.2 billion in public assistance including food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing, according to a report published to coincide with Tax Day, April 15.

Americans for Tax Fairness, a coalition of 400 national and state-level progressive groups, made this estimate using data from a 2013 study by Democratic Staff of the U.S. Committee on Education and the Workforce.

“The study estimated the cost to Wisconsin’s taxpayers of Walmart’s low wages and benefits, which often force workers to rely on various public assistance programs,” reads the report, available in full here.

“It found that a single Walmart Supercenter cost taxpayers between $904,542 and $1.75 million per year, or between $3,015 and $5,815 on average for each of 300 workers.”

Americans for Tax Fairness then took the mid-point of that range ($4,415) and multiplied it by Walmart’s approximately 1.4 million workers to come up with an estimate of the overall taxpayers’ bill for the Bentonville, Ark.-based big box giant’s staffers...

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That's a LOT of estimating.
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I think we just discovered the definition of a living wage. When your employer pays you enough to not qualify for public assistance while working you 40+ hours a week.
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How much do Costco employees cost taxpayers each year?
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No...just.....no...
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How much do Costco employees cost taxpayers each year?
Interesting question that can be answered with a two second search on Google.

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The company pays a living wage. Costco's CEO and president, Craig Jelinek, has publicly endorsed raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, and he takes that to heart. The company's starting pay is $11.50 per hour, and the average employee wage is $21 per hour, not including overtime.
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So, solution is we just cut public assistance programs. Then it wont cost us anything?
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Corporate welfare...let's give them tax breaks on their land purchases, business tax breaks, and cover what they short their employees.
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Some people just aren't worth $7.25/hr. It's not like Walmart is going to attract the people who are worth more than that to work their retail stores.
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Lol at Costco average wage number. Bet if you took the average wage of Walmart it's decently high too. Skewed number is skewed
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Corporate welfare...let's give them tax breaks on their land purchases, business tax breaks, and cover what they short their employees.
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Lol at Costco average wage number. Bet if you took the average wage of Walmart it's decently high too. Skewed number is skewed
You would lose that bet.

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Duh. I did my ethics class paper on Wal Mart, and at the end of my presentation, my professor said something along the lines of "great job, yes wal mart does use a lot of subsidies, but they do give all those old people jobs at the door." She was dead serious.
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I think we just discovered the definition of a living wage. When your employer pays you enough to not qualify for public assistance while working you 40+ hours a week.
The "living wage" is like $11.50 in Milwaukee, and is laughable when expenses are broken down. The actual LIVING wage is much higher, and the term "living wage" should be changed to "existing in a life not worth living wage."

That said, Walmart does pay their employees $10 per hour now, both making this study obsolete (its based on 4 year old data ffs) and throwing a wrench in the "raising minimum wage would cause the entire economy to collapse" rightist/classist bullshit.
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That said, Walmart does pay their employees $10 per hour now, both making this study obsolete (its based on 4 year old data ffs) and throwing a wrench in the "raising minimum wage would cause the entire economy to collapse" rightist/classist bullshit.
Wait, didnt Walmart proceed to close a bunch of stores and cut hours once they raised salaries? Let's not pretend you can just raise wages and not see cuts elsewhere. Balance sheet much?
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Lol at Costco average wage number. Bet if you took the average wage of Walmart it's decently high too. Skewed number is skewed
Actually last I checked the average wage was $9 for all Walmart store employees, and $17 for Costco store employees. But never let facts get in the way of classist ignorant bullshit.
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The "living wage" is like $11.50 in Milwaukee, and is laughable when expenses are broken down. The actual LIVING wage is much higher, and the term "living wage" should be changed to "existing in a life not worth living wage."
I'm fine with that. I think that if you work full time you should be able to afford a modest place to live, a modest used car and not have to eat cat food. You want more? Do more.

I really don't understand people who think it's OK to pay someone such a low wage that they can't have those basics though.
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I really don't understand people who think it's OK to pay someone such a low wage that they can't have those basics though.
Business 101. Labor is your most expensive cost. If you have jobs at 7.50 (and its legal to pay that rate) an hour and people will work at that rate, then why would you cost yourself more than you have to?
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Business 101. Labor is your most expensive cost. If you have jobs at 7.50 (and its legal to pay that rate) an hour and people will work at that rate, then why would you cost yourself more than you have to?
You just explained why it shouldn't be legal.
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Business 101. Labor is your most expensive cost. If you have jobs at 7.50 (and its legal to pay that rate) an hour and people will work at that rate, then why would you cost yourself more than you have to?
That's fine, but then people like you turn around and bitch about "entitlements" and "welfare". You seem to have zero problem with Wal-Mart sucking off the government teet, but somehow don't like poor people doing so. It's a perplexing thought process.
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Business 101. Labor is your most expensive cost. If you have jobs at 7.50 (and its legal to pay that rate) an hour and people will work at that rate, then why would you cost yourself more than you have to?
Ooh, I know that one. So your children can each inherit 10+ billion dollars?
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lol poor people

Why don't they just get better jobs?
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and somehow they still only have 2 out of 37 registers open
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Ooh, I know that one. So your children can each inherit 10+ billion dollars?
Word to David Glass. Gotta keep the lights on, nah'mean?
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That's fine, but then people like you turn around and bitch about "entitlements" and "welfare". You seem to have zero problem with Wal-Mart sucking off the government teet, but somehow don't like poor people doing so. It's a perplexing thought process.
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