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Old 12-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/mercedes-b...est/350-driven

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And that's not all. At first glance, the numbers on Mercedes's latest powerplants are so good they look like typographic errors. The 3.5-litre petrol-engined 350 six-cylinder delivers 41.5mpg, and CO2 emissions of 159g/km, and even the CLS 500 can manage 31.5mpg on average and coughs out less than 210g/km. The start-stop ‘Eco' option helps, and works unobtrusively. We're getting into cake-and-eat-it territory here, surely.
3.5L V6 with 41.5mpg? For real?
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:26 PM
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You know they have made engines that produce over 500whp and get over 50mpg, the oil companies just buy up the plans really fast.
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You know they have made engines that produce over 500whp and get over 50mpg, the oil companies just buy up the plans really fast.
lol-ed!
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::tin foil hat::
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I know the Euro standards are a bit different. I believe they use liter per kilometer (volume vs distance) vs miles per gallon (distance vs volume)?

They might also include starts and stops in their testing.

Our EPA standards do not include stopping and starting?????

Seven speed tranny with an ultra low 7th gear and direct injection (is it?) won't hurt.

Let the EPA get their dirty mitts on them.
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Reminds me of Jay Leno's E85 Z06 I believe it is. Something like 40mpg in a 600hp modified Corvette.


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You know they have made engines that produce over 500whp and get over 50mpg, the oil companies just buy up the plans really fast.
Details?
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I know the Euro standards are a bit different. I believe they use liter per kilometer (volume vs distance) vs miles per gallon (distance vs volume)?

They might also include starts and stops in their testing.

Our EPA standards do not include stopping and starting?????

Seven speed tranny with an ultra low 7th gear and direct injection (is it?) won't hurt.

Let the EPA get their dirty mitts on them.
Euro Standards =/= UK Standards?
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Euro Standards =/= UK Standards?
I don't know, I read just enough to be ignorant on a variety of topics.
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Details?
*waits for link to infor wars or some other conspiracy theory site.*

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I totally believe the conspiracy theories. I already have my tin hat on.
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Why not?

Weren't oil companies responsible for prohibition?
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:48 PM
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Why not?

Weren't oil companies responsible for prohibition?
Not sure but I know the DuPont Corporation was responsible for the prohibition of marijuana. They even covertly funded the media outrage by way of funding "Reefer Madness."

True story.

But I digress....
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DuPont, and timber/logging interests.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:13 PM
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I think that UK rating might be in miles per Imperial gallon, which would equal ~34.6 miles per U.S. gallon. Quite good, but certainly believable. I have no idea what their urban/exurban/hwy economy testing standard is like though, so YMMV. (chuckles at pun)
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Originally Posted by Knightsport View Post
Reminds me of Jay Leno's E85 Z06 I believe it is. Something like 40mpg in a 600hp modified Corvette.


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Old 12-17-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboy1185 View Post
You know they have made engines that produce over 500whp and get over 50mpg, the oil companies just buy up the plans really fast.
I'm actually a purchasing agent at one of the top oil companies in the world and can confirm that we do indeed do this. I've put my signature on paperwork for an unimaginable amount of potential energy saving solutions.
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Originally Posted by xtrac1 View Post
I know the Euro standards are a bit different. I believe they use liter per kilometer (volume vs distance) vs miles per gallon (distance vs volume)?
I think Euro fuel economy is expressed as liters (litres) per 100 km or something like that, which could be directly converted to km/L by dividing.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:58 PM
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I think Euro fuel economy is expressed as liters (litres) per 100 km or something like that, which could be directly converted to km/L by dividing.
That's right.
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Actually L/100km is fuel consumption. MPG is fuel economy.

Divide 235 by the value of one to convert to the other. 1 liter per 100km is 235 mpg. 1 mile per gallon is 235 liters per 100km.
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Originally Posted by Vogeezy View Post
I'm actually a purchasing agent at one of the top oil companies in the world and can confirm that we do indeed do this. I've put my signature on paperwork for an unimaginable amount of potential energy saving solutions.
*rage quit life*
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How fast are they cruising? I can get 30mpg if I drive 55mph, but going my normal 80mph drops that into the low 20s.
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Vogeezy View Post
I'm actually a purchasing agent at one of the top oil companies in the world and can confirm that we do indeed do this. I've put my signature on paperwork for an unimaginable amount of potential energy saving solutions.
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:35 PM
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just like the oil company's bought all the patents for the GM all electric car in the 90's... which caused GM to recall ALL of the electric cars to destroy them.
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