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Old 04-10-2013, 07:35 AM
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Smoking Is a ‘Preexisting Condition’: D.C. exchange board bans “discrimination” against smokers.

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The District of Columbia’s Obamacare czars — the board that sets rules for the phony insurance marketplace, or “exchange,” that the law creates — have decided that henceforth insurers shall be forbidden by law to charge smokers higher rates than non-smokers. Smoking, as it turns out, “is a preexisting medical condition,” according to Dr. Mohammad Akhter, the chairman of the D.C. Health Exchange Board. Two liberal states, California and Connecticut, have decided likewise, while Colorado and Alaska have rejected the idea.
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Obamacare eliminates the option for democratic response. Instead, it creates a body of political appointees immune from being held accountable at the ballot box. And who are those appointees? In the case of D.C., you will find few surprises: The SEIU has a man on the board, along with a lot of time-serving political types, a fellow from the Brookings Institution, a lobbyist, etc. Don’t like their boneheaded decisions? Too bad.
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The notion of insuring a preexisting condition is an oxymoron; insurance is by nature concerned with that which may happen in the future rather than with that which already has happened. In very large groups, human health outcomes are predictable with a fair degree of precision: Given 10 million people, actuaries can make pretty accurate predictions about how many people are going to get lung cancer and how many are going to be in car accidents. Some factors are relevant to some conditions: Being 17 years old and getting in a car accident, for example, or smoking and heart disease, emphysema, cancer, etc. Insurance, which places a price on calculated risks, will take some of those factors into account. But you cannot in any meaningful sense insure somebody against cancer when they already have cancer.
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And if you think that these boards will be operated independent of politics, ask yourself why the treasurer of the D.C. board is an SEIU operative “responsible for coordinating [Service Employees International Union]’s national-issue campaign efforts” — not a doctor, not a scientist, but an old-fashioned political hack, one Khalid Pitts of USAction and the Gephardt campaign.
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you have to be f in kidding me


**** that
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DEATH TO AMERICA! SOCIALISM!









/stupid fking story over and over and over again
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Thanks Obama!
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Here's the awesome part OP posted:

The District of Columbia’s Obamacare czars — the board that sets rules for the phony insurance marketplace, or “exchange,” that the law creates — have decided that henceforth insurers shall be forbidden by law to charge smokers higher rates than non-smokers.


yeah, fk that noise, yo. Charge them fkers!
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MURICA **** YEAH!
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Brb..gonna start smoking.
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DEATH TO AMERICA! SOCIALISM!

/stupid fking story over and over and over again
Care to elaborate? The story is stupid or the law is the stupids?
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Originally Posted by Johnny. View Post
Here's the awesome part OP posted:

The District of Columbia’s Obamacare czars — the board that sets rules for the phony insurance marketplace, or “exchange,” that the law creates — have decided that henceforth insurers shall be forbidden by law to charge smokers higher rates than non-smokers.


yeah, fk that noise, yo. Charge them fkers!

So are you saying the post is BS or you dont agree with it?I didnt click on the link to the story as i dont recognize the URL and im atwork...
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Can anyone confirm if the people who made this decision smoke?
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Will fat ppl charged higher rates than thin ppl? Studies show obesity is linked to a host of health problems.
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Your face when you realize how much PREVENTABLE Cancer costs to treat.

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If we're charging fat people and smokers, then we better charge marijuana users and alcoholics too.
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Waiting for "having male genitalia, but feeling like a female inside" is a pre-existing condition.
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Waiting for, "having tiny *****, but feeling like I need bigger *****" is a pre-existing condition.


Actually, I aint mad doe. Just more lawsuits to file and more money to win.
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Waiting for, "having tiny *****, but feeling like I need bigger *****" is a pre-existing condition.


Actually, I aint mad doe. Just more lawsuits to file and more money to win.
An entire country of girls with fake *****.
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Care to elaborate? The story is stupid or the law is the stupids?

Nope, just following the good ol' GDD status quo.
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An entire country of girls with fake *****.
Not sure if want.
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Waiting for "having male genitalia, but feeling like a female inside" is a pre-existing condition.
My wife is a middle school teacher and she just found out this week that one of the 8th grade students is having a sex change - female to male.

I was floored that a parent or doctor would approve elective surgery like that on someone so young.
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My wife is a middle school teacher and she just found out this week that one of the 8th grade students is having a sex change - female to male.

I was floored that a parent or doctor would approve elective surgery like that on someone so young.
Dude it's happening to 5 year olds.
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Its better young actually, more successful gender transition because pubescent hormones haven't fully kicked in.

But what I want to know is what 8th grader would have full understanding of what a sex change actually entails, or even have enough of a sense of self to make that decision properly.

My biggest concern in 8th grade was what brand of skateboard I should buy, or whether I should ask for Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4 for my birthday or for Christmas.
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Man some of you guys are either deaf dumb and blind or just plain ignorant to economics.
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Unless you can be in that position, you really wouldnt know what its like to feel how they feel.

id probably be severely depressed, if i was mentally a boy in a female body... to the point i kill myself.

just saying...
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Nope, just following the good ol' GDD status quo.
You were one of Obama's biggest proponents on here. Do you agree with this policy?
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America, F YEAH!

next will be, obesity in Americans is a medical condition (arguable), so they shouldnt be charged higher rates as compared to the rest of the fitter people
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