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Old 05-29-2008, 12:20 PM
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Default MBWorld sniffs out a scammer!!!

tried searching and nothing popped up.. don't shoot me if there's a thread i missed

this all happened in the last two weeks. .pretty crazy the info you can get on the innanets.

beware scammers.. you could be next.

they've updated it pretty frequently over the past few days with more info on the guy and the whole progress..

http://blog.cyberchun.com/archives/000428.html

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Latest update: 05/29/2008 - 1PM EDT

History:

05/16/2008 - A newly registered member "benzgrandcru" posts a new thread about selling a set of E63 AMG wheels and tires. Two MBWorld forum members, Timeless and teolax show interest, and PM the seller.


5/22/2008 - Timeless posts back saying that although he's given payment via Google checkout, the seller seems less than honest and that his wheels have been "lost in shipping"

benzgrandcru immediately begins to accuse Timeless of defaming him and that DHL had lost his wheels.

teolax comes forward saying that he's been scammed as well. He's also paid through Google checkout and is told that his set of wheels were lost by DHL.

amdeutsch, a moderator, spots some unusual post behavior by benzgrandcru.

YoBalls83 recognizes the picture from the original post by benzgrandcru as a picture he took himself to sell his wheels and tires.


05/23/2008 - nlpamg (Phil), another moderator, recognizes the IP address benzgrandcru to be that of C230_617. C230_617 has had a long history at MBWorld (as early as 2006), being banned on many, many occasions, each time with new aliases, new IP addresses and new e-mail addresses.

With Phil's involvement, the hunt begins.

IP addresses are recorded and searched. At the same time, benzgrandgru is called out publicly by respected members of MBWorld. He is still adamant that DHL is to blame, and that Timeless and teolax should contact DHL for thier refunds.

Attempts are made to throw off the MBWorld crew. Phil loses his mind and posts the motherload of IP's and aliases C230_617 has used over the years. Most of these IP's trace back to Boston MA, Bridgewater State College (Boston MA) and the Massachusetts Higher Education Computer Network. Other forum members start to gather all kinds of information about past cars, threads, and any detail that can be harvested.

Details from the pictures are dissected one by one. At this point, we have pictures of his C230 Coupe and Jaguar S-Type R. Some of the pictures are taken near a then unidentified BestBuy. His myspace page is found but it's quickly deleted. The BestBuy is also identified by 55fanatic (Pete), a long time MBWorld member who lives in Boston MA to be in Brockton, MA. Friday night was interesting as pictures are deleted and some damage control is attempted by C230_617. Unfortunately, MBWorld members stay one step ahead here and here.

Pete begins to get the word out and also uses his local knowledge to further the hunt. Phil does more diging and finds some interesting posts at the audiforums and jaguarforums. Other scams by this same person are found. Suspicious e-bay auctions are also linked.

Previously, all license plates were covered over in all the pictures posted by C230_617. boohooramblers uncovers these hidden vehicle tags here, here and here. The **** has now hit the fan.

More victims are found.

As the warmongers home in, C230_617 feels the heat and offers Timeless a full refund and asks that we leave him alone.

Members from other forums start to join in and offer thier help.


05/27/2008 - Memorial day weekend is over. More members from other forums show up to join the party. Another victim comes forward.

New York address investigated. British scuba divers join in the hunt. Pictures of C230_617 are found on NikeTalk.com

Late in the afternoon, a breakthrough. The previously uncovered license plate numbers are tracked back to his name and address.

BILLY J. SMITH
83 ASH PARK DR.
Stoughton, Ma. 02072

and

1338 Blue Hill Ave
Mattapan, Ma. 02126

From this point we go nuts. We even find the first 5 of his SS#. We also find out that most likely, we are dealing Billy Smith (22yrs old) who has a father with the same name (57yrs old). 1338 Blue Hill ave is eliminated, it's a run-down commercial area.

Pictures of his house are taken! More IP's uncovered.


05/28/2008 - Timeless recieves his money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately, more and more possible victims are comming forward.

** Phil has a conversation on NikeTalk with Jonathan Turner (Creamecheese), an acquaintance of Billy. Admits helping him try to sell the car parts.

05/29/2008 - Our investigation is moving toward Johnathan Turner. (myspace) Meanwhile, a member from E90Post recieves his refund! More information is dug up on myspace - here and here. Information is also found on the Blue Hill Ave address. Bill Smith graduates from Bridgewater State College and an e-mail was sent to the college. More and more information is found for Jonathan Turner here, here. He's also found to work at the Apple store in Cambridgeside Galleria, and we also find his facebook and figure out he has an iPhone and likes to keep his room messy. More potentially fraudulent acutions are found. Even more here.


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Profile:

Name: SMITH, BILL J
SSN: 416-72-XXXX
Date of Birth: 09/1985

Most likely, Billy here lives at:
83 ASH PARK DR
STOUGHTON, MA 02072-3525

Billy is a 22yr old that at one time attended, or still attends Bridgewater State College. He most likely works or has some association to the BestBuy located in Brockton MA. Billy is known to have had the following cars:

Black CLK320 Convertible
Black C230 Coupe
Black Jaguar S-Type-R

Billy has a father with the same name as him (Bill J. Smith).

Pictures of Bill


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E90post
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G35driver
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lambopower.com
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IP's

74.63.75.130
67.159.46.12
74.63.75.131
134.241.104.20
134.241.46.147
134.241.46.147
134.241.46.147
134.241.46.154
134.241.46.177
134.241.46.187
134.241.46.213
134.241.46.73
134.241.46.89
152.163.100.130
152.163.100.130
152.163.97.186
192.207.57.119
192.207.57.119
192.207.58.3
192.207.58.7
192.207.58.7
205.188.116.130
205.188.116.134
207.206.228.12
207.206.229.186
207.206.235.38
207.206.239.103
207.206.239.225
64.12.116.74
67.180.42.171
68.163.138.216
68.163.172.65
68.163.172.65
68.163.188.66
68.163.205.51
68.163.205.51
68.163.208.196
68.163.224.206
68.163.224.206
68.163.224.206
68.163.234.30
68.163.234.30
68.163.234.30
68.163.58.232
68.163.58.232
68.236.11.236
68.236.29.130


Usernames/Aliases

c230_617
benzgrandcru
grandcrubenz
Dr. Max
[email protected]
JeffMaxBenz
Max_Benz
mybenzismine
benzgame
cklass_balla
from190e_cs
fast_benz
benz401
benzpro230
benzgenius
w203_amg
benz_og
benz2viper
jokasbenz
capshift21
justbuybenz
wonderbenz
smoothoperator
fastest_balla
wonder_amg
05Css
bmw2benz
sknud_nike
cpe_fresh
thom_doe
socleanice
benz_ster
c230_617
c230_617
fast_amg
c230_back_617
fastbenzamgs
newbenzamg
fresh_benz
skywalker_benz
c230_617returns
benzsohot
benztohot
whywasIbanned
c230_617imback
freec230_617
newc230_617
Looki4Benzpart2
Lookin4Benzpart
rockintunes23
nicedeboy
sfbayking415
benzorAjag?
c32amgbenz
stillwhipinbenz
benzsoclean
nolongerownbenz
w203benzfresh
joshuambenzc
blk_coupe
lorinserbrabus
mbenzeclass
brabusbenzcrew
E60Boosted
Mr.530i

Other forums visited by C230_617

http://www.benzworld.org
Sneakerfreaker.com* snapplejack18
Niketalk.com* Creamecheese
Nikeskateboarding.org* cheesecake
Futureproducers.com* snapplejack18
Thephotoforum.com* cheesecake
Photobucket.com* creamecheese
Macrumors.com* snapplejack18
AIM* snappleseedmilk
Youtube.com* snapplejack18
http://www.audiforums.com
http://www.jaguarforums.com
http://www.e46fanatics.com
http://www.audizine.com
http://www.m5board.com


Victims

Timeless
teolax
deaguero
clkal (unconfirmed)
03_| (unconfirmed)
HeirKranz
k522751 (ebay)
01300477 (ebay)
albanianbenz (unconfirmed)
robbyt18 (Bobby_Light from E90post)
BMWM3
vtecgreen (audizine)
bmwgary


DHL tracking numbers:

Timeless
27356089854
27356088955

teolax
27379265056
27379263354

robbyt18 (Bobby_Light from E90post)
27254742550
27254754155
27254758451
27254770152


Bogus Companies/Contact information

OEM Headlights N Parts
200 Talbot Ave
Boston MA 02124
UNITED STATES
(857) 753-8478

OEM Headlights N Parts
762 3rd Avenue
New York NY 10017
UNITED STATES

EVIS PANAOU
4 FUCHIA LANE.
HICKSVILLE, NY 11801
(516) 721 3819

James Johnson (Jay)
phone # 631-645-4407
Posted ads from Virginia & NY

OEM Headlights N Parts
200 Talbot Ave
Boston, MA 02124
United States
[email protected]

1338 Blue Hill Ave
Mattapan, MA 02126-1843
(617) 298-6080

45 RICHMOND ST
BROCKTON, MA 02301-2746


Cameras used (yes, we really have this info)

Sony DSC-W80
Canon Powershot s30
Samsung S630
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Im so suprised people are still stupid enough to get scammed. Someone with half a brain could avoid one of these scams. With all the stupid people becoming more common these days, it just fuels the fire and helps all these scammers make money.
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that seems like an unnecessary amount of information to be fully exposed by someone, scammer or not, and unless this is fully provable, could constitute libel, etc.
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I hope he burns in hell.
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LOL, epic. I love when a scammer gets owned.

Now on the legal side of this....how far does this internet vigilante stuff go? When does it cross the line?
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Defamation of the scammers tombstone is taking it too far, anything else goes.
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lol damn... thats a LOT of information.
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they caught a scammer
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the guy is actually local to me and i offered to go tape his arrest.
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and took pics of his house but forgot pics of his gf, sister and/or mother.
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