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Old 04-23-2019, 04:09 PM
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Need some info on this. What is the internet's opinion? Stories to share?

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Old 04-23-2019, 04:24 PM
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Something like drugs are bad mkay.
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It’s hitting the white communities so now it’s a crisis
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Itís hitting the white communities so now itís a crisis
Itís been hitting ďwhiteĒ communities for a decade. Making this about race is fucked.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:50 PM
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Cliffs:

Get hurt.

Take prescription pain killers.

Become physically addicted to the pain killers.

When the pills become unavailable or unaffordable, they turn to heroin.






An unintended consequence... or perhaps not.
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Cliffs; make excuses for your behavior, be pandered to, shoot dope, die.
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:00 PM
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Very good friend 5 years ago
33% owner in a massive and locally famous restaurant thatís worth close to 10 million.
Made about $20-$30k/month, on the books, more off.
Had been struggling with his weight his whole life, weighed 350lbs when we were 20, now he was lifting and playing bball and weighed [email protected]í2Ē
Married with a 2 year old and a baby. Heís an ugly mother ****** and his wife is pretty good looking.
Bought a new escalade with cash as soon as it came out.
Made fun of me for smoking weed or doing any drugs whatsoever
6k sq ft house

Then he hurt his knee, was prescribed pain killers after his surgery.

Currently he-
Spends $10/k month on pain killers. He takes like 30 or 40 percs/day, each pill is the max dosage is of a perc.
weighs 450lbs, complete slob
divorced, wife has custody of kids
Being forced out of the restaurant by his partners
Has been to rehab 3 times
Has no more friends, including myself
Spends all day everyday playing video games
Lives with his mom
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Pilll mills are a big problem. My mom got addicted because her doc. **** those ********.
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Very good friend 5 years ago
33% owner in a massive and locally famous restaurant thatís worth close to 10 million.
Made about $20-$30k/month, on the books, more off.
Had been struggling with his weight his whole life, weighed 350lbs when we were 20, now he was lifting and playing bball and weighed [email protected]í2Ē
Married with a 2 year old and a baby. Heís an ugly mother ****** and his wife is pretty good looking.
Bought a new escalade with cash as soon as it came out.
Made fun of me for smoking weed or doing any drugs whatsoever
6k sq ft house

Then he hurt his knee, was prescribed pain killers after his surgery.

Currently he-
Spends $10/k month on pain killers. He takes like 30 or 40 percs/day, each pill is the max dosage is of a perc.
weighs 450lbs, complete slob
divorced, wife has custody of kids
Being forced out of the restaurant by his partners
Has been to rehab 3 times
Has no more friends, including myself
Spends all day everyday playing video games
Lives with his mom
Holy hell. Thatís some sad ****. **** those doctors.
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:06 PM
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Seems easy for people that have had a lot of injuries to get addicted. I've had a few surgeries and pretty bad injuries, but I never had a problem not taking them. It's definitely different for other people though. There was a kid that was supposed to be the "next big thing" in motocross that ended up getting addicted and ruined his career. I've read from a few sources that his manager told him he needs to get back on the bike or he will lose his factory ride. I imagine he was in a ton of pain and or course, needed pain meds. Career over
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:09 PM
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Snorting an Oxycontin back in 2004... best feeling of my life. Stayed away from that **** ever since.

Dr.s were hanging them out like Candy at that time. There were scams going on everywhere were people who find corrupt Dr.s just pay a cash visit and get anything you wanted written for you. 10/325 Norcos, Somas, Xanax, Valium you name it.
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Originally Posted by ScareyH22A View Post
My mom got addicted because her doc. **** those ********.
******* overprescribing

Saw this on the news last week

https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l1854

US authorities have charged dozens of medical professionals in seven states with illegally prescribing more than 32 million opioid pills, in the largest operation yet against doctors profiting from the US opioid epidemic.

The 60 people indicted include 31 doctors, eight nurse practitioners, seven other licensed medical professionals, and seven pharmacists in Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and West Virginia. Most of the other people charged are physiciansí office managers and other clinic staff.
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How would you guys weigh the blame between docs and the pharm industry?

The only one time I was in agonizing pain was my root canal on my molar tooth. For 3 days I could only mash food in my bowl and swallow it. After that the pain lingered on for another 2 weeks but was bearable at that point, could chew normally and was probably 4 weeks till no pain whatsoever. I didn't take pain meds but I could see it as a channel for potential addiction.
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How would you guys weigh the blame between docs and the pharm industry?
0 and 0?

I put this on the individual. Percs, Tramadol etc are great. Use wisely.

30-40 a day, I can't even. If I take more than one a day I can barely walk and the nausea alone is enough to put me off them. I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who get addicted to **** and **** their lives up. And IMO it makes no sense to me that all the personal-responsibility (R)s I know (here and IRL) are so sympathetic to the opioid issue. I don't understand.
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:30 PM
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How would you guys weigh the blame between docs and the pharm industry?

The only one time I was in agonizing pain was my root canal on my molar tooth. For 3 days I could only mash food in my bowl and swallow it. After that the pain lingered on for another 2 weeks but was bearable at that point, could chew normally and was probably 4 weeks till no pain whatsoever. I didn't take pain meds but I could see it as a channel for potential addiction.
Not the docs for sure, I know several, including my wife who is an NP and writes prescriptions. People beg for them. Itís impossible to know whoís addicted and many times they really just want to make sure the person is not in pain.
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And there are some people where opioids are the only thing they can take that works for pain.
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:38 PM
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I put this on the individual. Percs, Tramadol etc are great. Use wisely.

30-40 a day, I can't even. If I take more than one a day I can barely walk and the nausea alone is enough to put me off them. I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who get addicted to **** and **** their lives up. And IMO it makes no sense to me that all the personal-responsibility (R)s I know (here and IRL) are so sympathetic to the opioid issue. I don't understand.
You don't believe the addictive nature of oxycontin was at best overlooked or at worst intentionally ignored?
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:41 PM
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I dunno, maybe Iím a Sympathetic Steve but Iíve had enough friends die from heroin at this point and many more that have ODíd and came back to write it off as a problem for losers.

Right down the line, every last person I knew/know started with pills. Unfortunately, I donít think anybody knew how bad they were, and especially worse before they had time-release mechanisms and weíre crushable. Kids do stupid **** and pills were seemingly innocent 10 years ago.

Iím convinced that certain people are wired to be inclined to addiction more than others. So now you get a pill epidemic and the eventual crackdown and reformulation that drives people to heroin due to price and sheer accessibility. The common description I got was that it was the only way to operate and feel somewhat normal again.

Then comes fentanyl and everybody is dead.

End of story.
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I put this on the individual. Percs, Tramadol etc are great. Use wisely.

30-40 a day, I can't even. If I take more than one a day I can barely walk and the nausea alone is enough to put me off them. I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who get addicted to **** and **** their lives up. And IMO it makes no sense to me that all the personal-responsibility (R)s I know (here and IRL) are so sympathetic to the opioid issue. I don't understand.
ehhhh if you have an addictive personality it is really easy to get hooked and not realize it. It really doesnít help that doctors donít hold back on meds, and donít monitor their patients more closely.

Painkillers are just as bad as heroin. You wonít ever hit that same high as the first time again, so you end up taking more and more to keep trying to hit the same high. Then youíre whole life is about getting the next high. Itís a very sad road, that usually leads to death. Iíve heard some really shitty stories,I followed a podcast of addicts in recovery, and one of the dudes secretly relapsed due to pain killers that an ER dr has prescribed not realizing he was in recovery, dude ended up ODing.
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And there are some people where opioids are the only thing they can take that works for pain.
its because of the way they work, theyíre a wonder drug that blocks the pain receptors.
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You don't believe the addictive nature of oxycontin was at best overlooked or at worst intentionally ignored?
Buyer beware. Over reliance on pills is bad, everyone knows that. Or should.

We have no sympathy for crackheads or other drug users, why should this be any different?
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ehhhh if you have an addictive personality it is really easy to get hooked and not realize it. It really doesnít help that doctors donít hold back on meds, and donít monitor their patients more closely.
Sorry, the "addictive personality" is a myth:

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+t...obile&ie=UTF-8

So no. Why are opiate addicts any different than fat people or spending addicts in GDD's eyes?
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Buyer beware. Over reliance on pills is bad, everyone knows that. Or should.

We have no sympathy for crackheads or other drug users, why should this be any different?
I couldn't agree more. Glad to see that you see things this way.
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Sorry, the "addictive personality" is a myth:

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+t...obile&ie=UTF-8

So no. Why are opiate addicts any different than fat people or spending addicts in GDD's eyes?
Ok fine, play semantics. If you are more prone to developing an addiction, you will more easily become addicted to the drug.

Your body physically demands the opioids after the first dose.

Its not like ďoh Iím fat and canít stop eating when I see foodĒ

you dont go into withdrawals over not eating a cheeseburger. You donít go into convulsions and get burger sick like you do dope sick.
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I couldn't agree more. Glad to see that you see things this way.
Thanks

I know it's not my usual outlook as I'm supposed to be the bleeding-heart liberal, but everyone has one issue where they just say "**** it, everyone should be like me on this one and I have no sympathy for anyone who isn't."

For most people it's money or health. Fun to look down on the poor and sick/fat. For me it's drugs.
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