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Old 05-12-2003, 10:48 AM
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Default Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag?

Okay so I'm looking to buy a lawnmower. Who here mulches their clippings? Pros, cons? I've never had to think about this before. I always lived in an apartment until now. I live in Phoenix and in the summer weekly lawn mowings are the norm.
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Mulching is great. Pluses include no bagging (saves time, money and environmentally friendly) and fertilizing side effects (the muchled clippings help stabilize nitrogen levels in the lawn).

The only down side is you cannot let your lawn get too long. If it gets long, the blade will not mulch very well and you'll leave tracks of cut grass through yard (which turn brown in the sun).

Also, most people tend to cut their grass too short. Maintain it at a length slightly longer than you might initially want. The grass will better be able to withstand the lack of rain in August and will also grow slower. Cutting it short sends it into "survival mode", where is grows as fast as possible.
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Default Re: Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag? (macho-camacho)

I believe mulch is good for the lawn, but it doesnt look as nice bagged.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeff K. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe mulch is good for the lawn, but it doesnt look as nice bagged.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you cut it frequently enough, and like crack monkey said, you let it grow to a proper length, the mulch disentigrates pretty quickly.
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Default Re: Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag? (macho-camacho)

I hate bagging so I mulch. The only downside I see is when the clippings get wet and you drag it in the house.
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I have the el'cheapo sears mower. It just shoots the clippings out the side.

Its fine except around flower beds, and areas with mulch. In which case you have to make sure which direction the mower is, or you'll cover yoiur mulch with grass clippings which looks like ***.

One more thing, if you have a big yard, constantly changing the bag sucks.

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I have a pretty basic wal mart lawnmower and I have been thinking about making it into a go cart engine...

Anyone has done anything like that?
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Mulch man here. I think I'm allergic to about everything in nature. Dumbing the bag just makes me itch like crazy.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2 B 4GO10 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a pretty basic wal mart lawnmower and I have been thinking about making it into a go cart engine...

Anyone has done anything like that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag? (macho-camacho)

It's not as good to mulch if you don't have the APEXi N1 exhaust. The mulch comes out too ricey
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xander23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not as good to mulch if you don't have the APEXi N1 exhaust. The mulch comes out too ricey </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old 05-12-2003, 12:08 PM
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It all depends on the brand of mower. I would look around for a used "Bolens or "Troy Bilt" mulching mower. You cannot get them new anymore. See below:

Bolens invented the concept of mulching, and was later bought out by Troy. Troy Bilt copied and improved the original Bolens design. Troy Bilt was then subsequently purchased by MTD which basically re-badged their shitty equipment with Troy's hard earned name/reputation.

Conceptually, one cannot design a multi-function (ie "3 in 1") mower that mulches very well. It all has to do with under-deck airflow.

To bag effectively, you need velocity in all sections of the deck, in order to suck the clippings into the bag.

In order to mulch effectively, you need to suck the clippings upward, and to the center of the deck, where the velocity dies allowing the clips to fall back down through the blade to be re-cut.

Believe me, this has been my families business for the last 35 years. I've seen every brand and every design/concept out there. A Troy is what I'd buy.

EDIT: For clarity.
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Old 05-12-2003, 12:18 PM
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Wow, thanks (all of you) for the good info. I will definitely mulch instead of bag. My father in law has a 4 hp mower but sugguests I get at least 5 hp. He has thick St Augustine grass, I just have regular grass (bermuda, maybe). What HP do you guys reccomend for good mulching action?
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I'm runnin' 6HP
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Old 05-12-2003, 01:14 PM
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mulch is the only way to go.....save on bags
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Screw making a cart with it.

This looks like more fun...


http://www.letsmow.com/
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Default Re: Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag? (macho-camacho)

Here are some of my lawnmower tech Qs from a year ago.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=422148

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=162587

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=160387

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=152294

The only thing I would add as an update today is that I don't like the mulch system of my mower.

1. It doesn't chop it up fine enough.

2. Grass is often wet, so it just stick all over, and under the mower.

3. Mulch make grass slush that will stain the garage with you park it.

4. Unchopped up mulch leave an ugly sight on your lawn as it yellow.

5. It can kill or weaken your grass. I always have to broom it to fan it out.

Therefore, I vote of bag.

P.S. My mower is old, so maybe newer ones are better. And I recycle my clippings with the weekly pickup, so I just dump it in the bin.
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Old 05-12-2003, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag? (GoLowDrew)

It all depends on the end result you are trying to acheive...IMO bagging it is a PITA but it looks much nicer in the end.

Or you could..depending on the size of your yard...

remove the existing yard with a rototiller and re-seed using "dwarf grass" like they use onl golf courses, or just "rock it" with small river rocks.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by creeping death &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">remove the existing yard with a rototiller and re-seed using "dwarf grass" like they use onl golf courses, or just "rock it" with small river rocks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The rock thing is played out in AZ. My kids need a lawn.
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Default Re: Lawnmower-tech.com mulch or bag? (macho-camacho)

How do you guys mow your lawn perfect? I seen to make a mess. I want the lines from the wheel to be perfect. When i end up doin it, it looks like there are lines everywhere.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeff K. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you guys mow your lawn perfect? I seen to make a mess. I want the lines from the wheel to be perfect. When i end up doin it, it looks like there are lines everywhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If what you're going for is similar to the look of a baseball diamond, it's done by simply using a roller.
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Old 05-13-2003, 01:29 AM
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haha. we should have a seperate forum for honda's power equipment.

is there vtec on the ride on mowers? lol

i miss mowing the lawn. i always got a kick out of driving around and cutting grass.

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