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Old 04-02-2019, 11:24 PM
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Default Impala, Malibu, or Optima

As title states, I need a newer auto cheap sedan for a daily. I sold my E46 daily, and was looking to initially get

RSX-S
Del Sol Si or VTEC
WRX
Legacy GT
Civic Si 8G sedan
Cruze 6 speed turbo 11-12
EM1 blue
Silverado/Sierra 1500
Tahoe/Yukon

But it is tax time afterall and for some reason people love posting the good ones an hour before I work, and they are gone. And then the typical problems such as not as clean in pics, ect. Or they've done something to it that's like, why the **** would you do that to a car that you ever plan to sell? And of course, since everyone is tax balling, 2002 200K mile rusty RSX-S and WRX are definitely 6K cars. Okaaaay.

So after a month of searching to no avail, my patience has run out, and the last straw was going 2 hours to a dealer for a cash WRX TR, and another salesman sniped it and sold it before open. I arrived at open, the route to dealer was all through BFE and no one had signal, missed texts, and FB messages checking in.

So, I came back to local dealers, made sure I had approvals to get something new or almost new, and my caveats are it has to look good and be cheap, and can't come in a stick in any trim or form.

That takes me to only 3 cars,

Impala
Malibu
Optima

The only other cheap sedan I like the looks of is the Fusion, but I have a Ford, I'm not sold on their quality and it is available in a manual. If you're wondering why Civic/Accord aren't on the list, they are available in manual, and well they are ugly anyway. Even though I'm finally giving up stick shift for this car, I refuse to get a car that I hate to look at as well. I'm not quite at the point where the car can be a utensil in all aspects.

I will be looking at used on the Chevys, because they will be Premier models, and they have both depreciated hugely, infact the Impala is the single biggest depreciating car made. The Malibu will be a 17 because it has a 9 speed. Both Chevys do 0-60 in low 5 (Impala) and mid 5(Malibu) Malibu being turbo, can probably find a lot of extra power easy. Optima, may get 1.6T with DCT new, or SX Turbo used. Even considering getting the previous gen SX Turbo, because it looks a little better than the current, and the interior is better for drivers. Also the previous gen has like 30 more HP. But a buying point for Kias is the warranty...so smartest to get new.

I'd step to the Camry easily but that god damn face. I feel like with the Malibu or Optima, I could throw some wheels on them, and not hate it.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:44 AM
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GM sedans are pretty much dead ducks, with GM discontinuing almost all sedans as a precursor to starting up redesigned hybrid and electric vehicles.

The Kia's not for me, either.

If you're determined on these vehicles the first thing I would do is hop onto Consumer Reports and check the reliability ratings.

Although Consumer Reports are very much off the mark sometimes when it comes to enthusiasts vehicles, their quantifiable data is indisputable.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:12 AM
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Why those? No go for new Civic or Accord?
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:18 AM
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Ford Fusions are supposed to be pretty damn solid, but if buying new....out of the 3 listed I'd go Optima. 10 year 100k mile warranty should cover it for quite a while.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:54 AM
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:59 AM
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+! for accord
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:06 AM
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Out of those three the Kia all day. They look good and are reliable.


However if it was me I would get a used Camry. Toyota reliability and conventional automatic transmission. King of no nonsense transportation
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:14 AM
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Would Camry over any of those options
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:17 AM
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Why canít you consider cars that are available with a stick, even if you are only looking at the auto models?
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:28 AM
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Get an Accord or Camry...a malibu or impala will literally catch on fire and its head gasket is made out of recycled cardboard.
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:30 AM
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Would Camry over any of those options
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:46 AM
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Camry or Accord...why is this even a question?
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:48 AM
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Imagine buying a chevy malibu with your own money ($$$$) in 2019
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Why canít you consider cars that are available with a stick, even if you are only looking at the auto models?
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:55 AM
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I'll parrot everyone else in here and suggest the Accord. Get the Malibu or Impala if you absolutely hate yourself. Optima not bad but Accord mo betta.
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:57 AM
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Why canít you consider cars that are available with a stick, even if you are only looking at the auto models?
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Old 04-03-2019, 08:09 AM
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Accord, like everyone said.

I have a 2015 and it is awesome. I have a friend with a 2019 and it is AMAZING. Both sport models.

Anyway, if you're looking at the Optima, have you considered the Hyundai Sonata. I believe they compete with each other. My wife has a 2012 and it is pretty nice. The new redesigned ones are pretty nice too.
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Old 04-03-2019, 08:19 AM
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Why canít you consider cars that are available with a stick, even if you are only looking at the auto models?
OP is so straight he can't grasp anything phallic shaped.
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:51 PM
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Based Accord, 2015 sport, do eeeet.
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Lol @ Chevy
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Old 04-03-2019, 02:43 PM
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Based Accord, 2015 sport, do eeeet.
I have the 2015 and it is awesome.

But then I experienced the new models. Way better TBH and pretty much same price. You get a lot more creature comforts/features/power.

Obviously not worth it for me to trade up to it or anything, but for anyone shopping for one (or cross shopping), I highly recommend it.

I don't know much about the Camry's other than the rental 2018 models I've had (SE models).
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How’s the CVT transmission in general...any issues or odd characteristics? Longevity wise I’m reluctant to own a car with a CVT transmission but I’ve read Honda’s seem to hold up better than Nissan’s Jatco units.
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My Prius CVT never had a problem, had 146k when I sold it.

The last 20k were going through mountain passes daily.
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Howís the CVT transmission in general...any issues or odd characteristics? Longevity wise Iím reluctant to own a car with a CVT transmission but Iíve read Hondaís seem to hold up better than Nissanís Jatco units.
If asking in regards to my comment about owning a 2015 Accord...

It was my first time owning/driving a car with CVT and honestly I didn't have too much concern at first because I wasn't going to be modding it and didn't expect it to be fun/fast. Once I started driving it, I must say the CVT is very smooth. It takes some getting used to not feeling the shifts and to see the rpm needle hover around 3K while you're still accelerating hard.

I can't really say anything bad about it, but I wouldn't expect any real performance out of this car at least. I threw on a thick rear sway bar, but it hardly made a difference due to its weight. The car itself is very nice. The new Accords are huge and basically full sized sedans so it is very roomy and comfortable, even the back seats. With the 2015 generation (I think it goes until 2017?) you don't get any cool stuff like LED headlights, adaptive cruise, Apple CarPlay until you get a new one or spring for the expensive Touring models.
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