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How a $0.01 rivet ruined my weekend.

 
Old 12-12-2015, 03:17 PM
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Broke a rivet on the hinged support arm of the drop down folding ladder for my attic (storage) access. I could tell something was catching when I had opened it before, but could never spot the loose rivet. While getting my snowboard **** together this weekend it finally popped.

No big deal, one 3/8" rivet and a gun and I'll have it repaired as fast as I can pull that trigger a few times. Piece of cake I tell myself.

Went to harbor freight first in search of a big *** 3/8" rivet gun and 3/8"'rivets, just need it to work once! They always have all the giant 2" wrenches and sockets and so on, naturally they will have a big *** rivet gun!

Nothing but a bunch of the same 3/16" sets I already own.

Ok go to Home Depot.

Same thing at the depot.

Come home pissed and check grainger.

Yay, I can get a 3/8" rivet gun and rivets from grainger...

for about the cost of an entire new attic ladder setup.

Soooo now I'm back to my usual first instinct that I was trying to avoid... Ghetto rig that **** with a concoction of a very short (prob have to cut it down with angle grinder) 3/8" round head bolt, dual thin nuts to lock forever because the nut side will be inaccessible after the plate is reattached to the framing, and some lag bolts to reattach the plate to the framing. The plate is also riveted into the wood frame of the ladder opening, so I have to drill those out and replace with the lags because the holes will be way to big for a standard wood screw after drilling out the rivets.

So basically one failed ******* $0.01 rivet leaves me three expensive choices:

Man up and spend three figures on a big *** rivet gun from grainger that I'll never use again. Maximum cost, minimal effort.

Spend three figures and an afternoon replacing the entire attic ladder. 50/50 cost effort ratio.

Spend only like $20 but spend the better part of my Sunday going back to Home Depot, rummaging through their hardware for the **** I'm looking for, and rigging that crap up as described above. Minimal cost, still way too much effort.

Naturally I'm going with the last choice. FML.

And that is how a $0.01 rivet ruined my weekend.
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Old 12-12-2015, 03:31 PM
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nice story. ive felt pain similar to that. sucks when simple **** makes for complicated problems.
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The real lesson in all of this is to take your anger out on a hobby, and not shoot a bunch of people.
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Thanks for the lols guys, I figured if someone gets a laugh or I get some laughs, there is at least some good to be had from my misfortune.
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Damn OP. Did you check Amazon for the rivet gun? Sounds like you didn't exactly need to fix it right now.
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Damn OP. Did you check Amazon for the rivet gun? Sounds like you didn't exactly need to fix it right now.

Checked Amazon before grainger, kinda want to fix right away because tired of looking at the sagging attic door, and it makes the place drafty during our frigid winter.
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Damn OP. Did you check Amazon for the rivet gun? Sounds like you didn't exactly need to fix it right now.
You convinced me to check again after calming the **** down.

I think I'm just gonna grab this and be happy I come out at least still under $100 for fixing one rivet.

Lols use once and return?
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can you use a rivnut?

just did this to fix my moms fuel door on her Avalon because it needed a 3/8" rivet.
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can you use a rivnut?

just did this to fix my moms fuel door on her Avalon because it needed a 3/8" rivet.

Will google rivnut, thank you
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Going to stop at fastenall on Monday, your rivnut suggestion brought me to these,I think it's what I'm looking for but hope to see If they have something in stock they can suggest. Where did you buy yours from?
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A friend grabbed me one from his workplace unfortunately. there are YouTube vids of people using a nut and bolt slid through a piece of pipe to set them so you don't need the install tool...
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Originally Posted by BIGBLOCKEK View Post
Checked Amazon before grainger, kinda want to fix right away because tired of looking at the sagging attic door, and it makes the place drafty during our frigid winter.
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Originally Posted by 93Accord117 View Post
The real lesson in all of this is to take your anger out on a hobby, and not shoot a bunch of people.
Dont take your anger out on customer service reps either. Makes you look like an *** and ultimately employees/other customers make fun of you once you leave
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Why don't you buy something, use it once and take it back? Free.

Poors do it all the time
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The poors mindset isn't really in my nature but I did finally come to that.

I'm going to just stop at fastenal this week on my way home and hopefully get a 3/8 rivet nut or whatever that you don't need a special tool for.
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The poors mindset isn't really in my nature but I did finally come to that.

I'm going to just stop at fastenal this week on my way home and hopefully get a 3/8 rivet nut or whatever that you don't need a special tool for.
Lol I don't either but if it was for something that small I'd probably do it as not much wear and tear would happen on it.
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Checked Amazon before grainger, kinda want to fix right away because tired of looking at the sagging attic door, and it makes the place drafty during our frigid winter.
Duct tape it closed until you can figure out a cheap solution.
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Is this pop rivets you're talking about or real rivets?

If pop rivets, just grab one of those cheap handheld affairs from harbor freight or autozone for $15.

If real rivets, go buy a bolt cutter from home depot for $11.99, grab two pieces of bar stock and drill a little dimple into one of them, duct tape those bitches to the jaws of the bolt cutter and you can press a single rivet so long as there's enough room to fit the bolt cutters in. Or if you want a permanent rivet gun, grind the jaws flat in a bench grinder, drill a dimple in one jaw and you're set.

Alternative method real rivet. - Go buy an air hammer smoothing bit for $5, drill a dimple in it. Take your ladder to a mechanic or body shop and ask if they can use their air hammer to smash the rivet head.
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I replaced the bigger rivet with a 3/8" grade 8 bolt, with a nylon lock nut. No big deal. If you can access the space between the attic ladder frame and the ceiling frame, you can just drill the other rivets out and replace with 1/4" bolts. I used grade 8 with nylon lock nuts there, too - but that may be overkill.

Not that big a problem. You know a whole new attic ladder (outside of the standard sizes) are a couple hundred bucks right?

If I remember, I'll try and get a picture of my setup.
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Is this pop rivets you're talking about or real rivets?

If pop rivets, just grab one of those cheap handheld affairs from harbor freight or autozone for $15.

If real rivets, go buy a bolt cutter from home depot for $11.99, grab two pieces of bar stock and drill a little dimple into one of them, duct tape those bitches to the jaws of the bolt cutter and you can press a single rivet so long as there's enough room to fit the bolt cutters in. Or if you want a permanent rivet gun, grind the jaws flat in a bench grinder, drill a dimple in one jaw and you're set.

Alternative method real rivet. - Go buy an air hammer smoothing bit for $5, drill a dimple in it. Take your ladder to a mechanic or body shop and ask if they can use their air hammer to smash the rivet head.
Best. Hack. Ever.

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