HOA says I can't wash my car
#227

Protects if you only wash your car with 2 buckets
#229

Not a dumb question, I asked my guy this when I got Ceramic Pro the first time around... He cringed when I asked about automatic washes and still had a list of recommended soaps and still stresses the two bucket method. The cool thing is that no meticulous detailing is required afterwards, just a half assed two-bucket wash and then dry it off. He said ONR is fine for quick detail jobs too.
#230
aka DaZman69!
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 35

Not a dumb question, I asked my guy this when I got Ceramic Pro the first time around... He cringed when I asked about automatic washes and still had a list of recommended soaps and still stresses the two bucket method. The cool thing is that no meticulous detailing is required afterwards, just a half assed two-bucket wash and then dry it off. He said ONR is fine for quick detail jobs too.
#231

Yes you can. That’s all ive done for 8+ months now and my paint is still flawless. And it’s a freakin black car haha.
My car hasnt seen a wash mitt since last spring.
Ill take a microfiber and the supplied detailer from Feynlabs every couple months just to keep it healthy and/or wipe off any water spots leftover from the air dry.
My car hasnt seen a wash mitt since last spring.
Ill take a microfiber and the supplied detailer from Feynlabs every couple months just to keep it healthy and/or wipe off any water spots leftover from the air dry.
#232

I don't want to put words in my installer's mouth, but I believe using a touchless or poor washing habits breaks down the "light" layer quicker.
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
#233
aka DaZman69!
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 35

I don't want to put words in my installer's mouth, but I believe using a touchless or poor washing habits breaks down the "light" layer quicker.
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
It’s literally the same as pressure washing. I’d think running a rag over the car would be more abusive to the paint then a touchless car wash. With a touchless literally nothing ever has to physically touch your paint.
#234

except the water literally destroying it
#235

But I assume you also have to take into account that this is their profession so they're going to have higher opinions on products/procedures and overkill suggestions. Either way, with an expensive coating job, I'll heed his advice if it means making it last.
If you ever want to see some real psychos in action, follow the Obsessed Garage group on FB.
#236

The chemicals used to compensate for the lack of touching.
#237

They said it was more about the detergents those places typically use versus the procedure itself.
But I assume you also have to take into account that this is their profession so they're going to have higher opinions on products/procedures and overkill suggestions. Either way, with an expensive coating job, I'll heed his advice if it means making it last.
If you ever want to see some real psychos in action, follow the Obsessed Garage group on FB.
But I assume you also have to take into account that this is their profession so they're going to have higher opinions on products/procedures and overkill suggestions. Either way, with an expensive coating job, I'll heed his advice if it means making it last.
If you ever want to see some real psychos in action, follow the Obsessed Garage group on FB.
