HOA says I can't wash my car
02-12-2019, 05:52 AM
#227
Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by smileycvc
It looks new, but ceramic does nothing to protect your paint from scratches or rock chips. It really just makes the paint easier to clean and helps keep it's shine. Clear bra is superior for actual protection, but obviously more expensive.
02-12-2019, 06:34 AM
#229
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Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by mistersparco
dumb question:
a car that has ceramic coating.. do the owners just run them through automatic washes?
or generally since coatings cost some money and they are high dollar cars.. they still get them meticulously detailed?
a car that has ceramic coating.. do the owners just run them through automatic washes?
or generally since coatings cost some money and they are high dollar cars.. they still get them meticulously detailed?
02-12-2019, 07:06 AM
#230
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Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by itrSteez
Not a dumb question, I asked my guy this when I got Ceramic Pro the first time around... He cringed when I asked about automatic washes and still had a list of recommended soaps and still stresses the two bucket method. The cool thing is that no meticulous detailing is required afterwards, just a half assed two-bucket wash and then dry it off. He said ONR is fine for quick detail jobs too.
02-12-2019, 07:22 AM
#231
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Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by sflkgjsfndgn
can’t you just run it through a touchless?
My car hasnt seen a wash mitt since last spring.
Ill take a microfiber and the supplied detailer from Feynlabs every couple months just to keep it healthy and/or wipe off any water spots leftover from the air dry.
02-12-2019, 07:38 AM
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Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by sflkgjsfndgn
can’t you just run it through a touchless?
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
02-12-2019, 08:03 AM
#233
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Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by itrSteez
I don't want to put words in my installer's mouth, but I believe using a touchless or poor washing habits breaks down the "light" layer quicker.
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
Ceramic Pro is two separate parts
the 9H layer (or multiple 9h layers) - this is the protective layer helps prevent against swirling, marring, etc
the "light" layer - this is the hydrophobic one and often what people think of when ceramic coating is mentioned. This just helps shed the water but doesn't offer protection. It has a shelf life though, typically it needs to be reapplied annually and I assume even more frequently if its abused.
My Tacoma sits outside and still looks better than showroom condition after cleaning it, but the hydrophobic properties are definitely diminishing. But it has been nearly a year so I suppose it's right on schedule.
Speaking of which, I just got the PPF and CP quote for the new car, woof. Doubtful I'll be in a rush to get that one, I had no idea how brutal PPF is.
It’s literally the same as pressure washing. I’d think running a rag over the car would be more abusive to the paint then a touchless car wash. With a touchless literally nothing ever has to physically touch your paint.
02-12-2019, 08:12 AM
#234
Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by sflkgjsfndgn
how is touchless absuing it though?
It’s literally the same as pressure washing. I’d think running a rag over the car would be more abusive to the paint then a touchless car wash. With a touchless literally nothing ever has to physically touch your paint.
02-12-2019, 08:12 AM
#235
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Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by sflkgjsfndgn
how is touchless absuing it though?
It’s literally the same as pressure washing. I’d think running a rag over the car would be more abusive to the paint then a touchless car wash. With a touchless literally nothing ever has to physically touch your paint.
It’s literally the same as pressure washing. I’d think running a rag over the car would be more abusive to the paint then a touchless car wash. With a touchless literally nothing ever has to physically touch your paint.
But I assume you also have to take into account that this is their profession so they're going to have higher opinions on products/procedures and overkill suggestions. Either way, with an expensive coating job, I'll heed his advice if it means making it last.
If you ever want to see some real psychos in action, follow the Obsessed Garage group on FB.
02-12-2019, 08:39 AM
#236
Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by sflkgjsfndgn
how is touchless absuing it though?
It’s literally the same as pressure washing. I’d think running a rag over the car would be more abusive to the paint then a touchless car wash. With a touchless literally nothing ever has to physically touch your paint.
02-12-2019, 08:42 AM
#237
Re: HOA says I can't wash my car
Originally Posted by itrSteez
They said it was more about the detergents those places typically use versus the procedure itself.
But I assume you also have to take into account that this is their profession so they're going to have higher opinions on products/procedures and overkill suggestions. Either way, with an expensive coating job, I'll heed his advice if it means making it last.
If you ever want to see some real psychos in action, follow the Obsessed Garage group on FB.
But I assume you also have to take into account that this is their profession so they're going to have higher opinions on products/procedures and overkill suggestions. Either way, with an expensive coating job, I'll heed his advice if it means making it last.
If you ever want to see some real psychos in action, follow the Obsessed Garage group on FB.
. For reals though I need to try it out for myself.
