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Old 12-13-2010, 12:40 PM
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The wife and I had a discussion about the plural use of last names engine in s, c, ch, sh, x, etc.

So, when you hear the saying, keeping up with the Joneses, that is technically correct.

When you write your Christmas card to say, the Joneses, is that also correct?

Is that true for all last names ending in s? We have some friends with the last name Elkins...so, the wife addressed it to "The Elkinses". I told her that sounded funny and should just be The Elkins.

So, I researched a bit and it seems like you're supposed to add es, but there's a ton of exceptions to the rul. This just seems funny: Rodiguezes, Joneses, Elkinses, Madoxes, etc..

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Words that end in -ch, x, s or s-like sounds, however, will require an -es for the plural:

more than one witch = witches
more than one box = boxes
more than one gas = gases
more than one bus = buses
more than one kiss = kisses
more than one Jones = Joneses
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Default Re: Grammar- Pluralized last names

Added to this:

Every card we receieved from someone whose last name ends with s did not add es...is this just assumed to be acceptable or should you correct these wrongs?

Better yet, get rid of all last names ending in s?
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Rule 1: (This is more of a PSA) you NEVER pluralize ANYTHING by using an apotrophe

Most names are made plural simply by adding "s". For example, it's The Smiths, and not The Smithes. Also, the plural of Bloody Mary is Bloody Marys. That whole "change the y to an i and add es" trick does NOT hold for proper nouns.

The ch, s, and x -sound endings are the exceptions where you add "es"
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Added to this:

Every card we receieved from someone whose last name ends with s did not add es...is this just assumed to be acceptable or should you correct these wrongs?
If the Jones Family referred to themselves as "The Jones" or "The Jones's" or "The Jones' ", yes, that is incorrect.
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Why not just make address it as:

The Jones Family or the Elkins Family or Mr & Mrs ___ Jones, Mr & Mrs ___ Elkins

Plural would be, names ending in s, add "es"

If you want to show the possessive case, then you would add apostrophe s: 's (with some exceptions)
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Rule 1: (This is more of a PSA) you NEVER pluralize ANYTHING by using an apotrophe
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my last name ends in S. To pluralize it we just add an '


My parents wood sign on their house: The xxxxxxxxs'
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GDD is probublee tha lasst playce on irth to ask cweschuns a bout speling end grammer becuz nobuddy hear ken reed or right four ****.
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my last name ends in S. To pluralize it we just add an '


My parents wood sign on their house: The xxxxxxxxs'
Your last name is slash 40??
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Originally Posted by crawdad689 View Post
Rule 1: (This is more of a PSA) you NEVER pluralize ANYTHING by using an apotrophe

Most names are made plural simply by adding "s". For example, it's The Smiths, and not The Smithes. Also, the plural of Bloody Mary is Bloody Marys. That whole "change the y to an i and add es" trick does NOT hold for proper nouns.

The ch, s, and x -sound endings are the exceptions where you add "es"
That didn't help at all...

Here's the rule I was looking for

When a family name (a proper noun) is pluralized, we almost always simply add an "s." So we go to visit the Smiths, the Kennedys, the Grays, etc.When a family name ends in s, x, ch, sh, or z, however, we form the plural by added -es, as in the Marches, the Joneses, the Maddoxes, the Bushes, the Rodriguezes. Do not form a family name plural by using an apostrophe; that device is reserved for creating possessive forms.

When a proper noun ends in an "s" with a hard "z" sound, we don't add any ending to form the plural: "The Chambers are coming to dinner" (not the Chamberses); "The Hodges used to live here" (not the Hodgeses). There are exceptions even to this: we say "The Joneses are coming over," and we'd probably write "The Stevenses are coming, too." A modest proposal: women whose last names end in "s" (pronounced "z") should marry and take the names of men whose last names do not end with that sound, and eventually this problem will disappear.
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Problems solved then?

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what if your last name ends in 2 s's?

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Problems solved then?

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Not really...both "Chambers" and "Jones" end with s with the same sound, yet this rule says, "The Chambers are coming" is ok as well as "The Joneses are coming"...so this means you don't necessarily have to add an es to proper nouns ending in s unless it sounds OK?
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what if your last name ends in 2 s's?

The Manesses like fake breasteses?
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Originally Posted by The_Head View Post
my last name ends in S. To pluralize it we just add an '


My parents wood sign on their house: The xxxxxxxxs'
One could argue it's being used as a possessive in that case. And the apostrophe would be correct.
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