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Old 03-21-2019, 09:35 AM
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Anyone else excited for this? The frame rates given the connections seem amazing.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:38 AM
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SaaS gaming? I guess it was only a matter of time.
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It will probably end up next to Google Glass.
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Kinda cool that it's based on Linux/Vulkan, hopefully that will be beneficial in terms of new games being made compatible with those platforms.

That said, I'm not even slightly interested in running games on someone else's computer. Hard pass.
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It will probably end up next to Google Glass.
Why? It has fantastic frame rates, universal access etc.
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Why? It has fantastic frame rates, universal access etc.
What gaming studios/producers have signed up? That's everything.
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Why? It has fantastic frame rates, universal access etc.
People are already committed to the multiple gaming platforms out there. This is a novelty item.

Show me the exclusive games, then we can talk.
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Eh idk, i think it could make sense in some use cases. If you can't afford a gaming pc/console/collection of games or just want to play occasionally it could make sense depending on pricing.

They do recommend 25Mbps though, which not everyone has.
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But can it play planet coaster?
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Originally Posted by The GreenD16 View Post
It will probably end up next to Google Glass.
I don't think so.

xbox is already talking about expanding xbox live so that nintendo switch users can access it. The Stadia requires no qames and no other hardware besides the controller and will allow player so play through their streaming service.
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Originally Posted by The GreenD16 View Post
Show me the exclusive games, then we can talk.
crossplay is becoming more and more common. I don't think exclusive titles will be much of an issue. The biggest games now are free (fortnite, apex legends) and this will only become more common
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Unless you can download the games to the console and play them offline this will get a gigantic **** YOUUUUUU from me
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nvidia wanted to do something like this back then
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Originally Posted by The GreenD16 View Post
Show me the exclusive games, then we can talk.
There are fewer and fewer truly exclusive games as time goes on. Many times that moniker only applies to traditional consoles, and that supposedly exclusive title has a PC port.
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https://store.google.com/magazine/stadia

Anyone else excited for this? The frame rates given the connections seem amazing.
Frame rate isn't the issue it's input latency. Tests with fiber pretty much right next to servers still seem to have latency that will make high level action games pretty unplayable.

But not everything has to be a high level competitive action game. For casual games and games designed with the latency in mind it will be very interesting to see how it works. It also has big implications for things outside out of gaming.
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:57 AM
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Frame rate isn't the issue it's input latency. Tests with fiber pretty much right next to servers still seem to have latency that will make high level action games pretty unplayable.

But not everything has to be a high level competitive action game. For casual games and games designed with the latency in mind it will be very interesting to see how it works. It also has big implications for things outside out of gaming.
Lag is supposedly close to universal and not an issue. The games they demoed were like Assasins creed fwiw.
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Google is making big claims regarding latency:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/go.../1100-6465737/

Google Stadia Boss Is "Absolutely, Unequivocally" Sure Latency Won't Be An Issue

"We get the data, the video, from our data center to your eyeball quicker than your eyeball to brain to nervous system to finger."



Google's new video game platform, Stadia, is completely digital and requires a constant, reliable internet connection to function. One of the issues people immediately bring up with streaming technology is latency--or lag. Everyone who has experienced lag in some capacity knows how frustrating it can be. Will lag be an issue with Stadia?

Stadia boss Phil Harrison says he is "absolutely, unequivocally" sure that latency won't be an issue. "We believe that it's not just for when the service starts; actually we've demonstrated it today," Harrison told us from San Francisco at the Game Developers Conference where Stadia was announced.

Harrison--who formerly held executive-level positions at Sony and Microsoft--added that it was no accident that Google used Doom Eternal to highlight Stadia.

"Having a studio with the very, very high threshold of quality and functionality from id; having id on our stage was very purposeful because the way [producer Marty Stratton] tells the story is spot on," he said. "They were skeptical when we first started talking to them. they were skeptical that a streaming platform could support the level of quality and responsiveness that they needed to deliver on their game experience. What they have delivered with Doom Eternal absolutely demonstrates that."

Harrison went on to say that Google has been able to achieve a low-latency platform because of the investments its made into the infrastructure supporting Stadia.

"It's because of the investments that we are making in the hardware and the fundamental networking fabric in the compression and encoder and the way we transport the bits from our data center to your home," he said. "There's probably 100 innovations there that each mean that we can deliver that quality of experience."

Also in the interview, Harrison pointed out that Stadia streams faster than the human body can process the information.

"We get the data, the video, from our data center to your eyeball quicker than your eyeball to brain to nervous system to finger," he said. "The human operating system is the slowest part of the [Stadia] operating system. Some humans are slower than others."

As with any internet-connected service, your experience will depend on the quality of your connection so mileage may vary between users. Harrison added Stadia will offer a bandwidth test service that informs them of the performance characteristics of their network, while he said Google will help players optimise the internet quality of their homes in a number of ways, including simply moving a router closer to the device.

Given that streaming a video game will be highly data-intensive, some people are also concerned about data caps and limits imposed by Internet service providers. Harrison said ISPs have a history of adapting their models to support new services. As an example, he said when music streaming became popular, ISPs increased bandwidth limits, and the same thing happened with the rise of YouTube and Netflix. Bandwidth limits are expected to continue to rise over time, Harrison said. That may be true, but it remains to be seen if ISPs will continue to charge extra for such increases.

Stadia launches later this year, but there are still many unanswered questions about it. One of the biggest ones is price. Harrison also told us that Google has the pricing sorted out, but it's saving that reveal for a future point in time. Google will talk more about Stadia this summer, and one possible forum for further announcements is E3.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:03 AM
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the games run on google's servers, not your hardware or device.
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I will believe it when I see it. Not sure how you can possibly claim "latency will not be an issue".
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:27 AM
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the games run on google's servers, not your hardware or device.
So a game I paid for I can't play if their servers go down for whatever reason?
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:29 AM
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So a game I paid for I can't play if their servers go down for whatever reason?
I don't think it works like that. Its going to be more like a subscription service. You'll be able to play any game you want without buying it. And you don't even need their controller to do it.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:31 AM
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I mean there is always some sort of latency limitation with physics.

If youíre communicating with something 5k miles away, it takes the speed of light like 1/20th of a second to transfer data there and back. Not sure if thatís perceptible. If itís on the other side of the planet, thatís like 1/10th of a second for communication to get there and back. Thatís just sheer physics, which doesnít include any sort of processing time.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:31 AM
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Right so if their servers go offline I can't play a game I paid for

Unless you can download the game to your console and play offline this thing gets a hard pass from me
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:32 AM
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Unless you can download the game to your console and play offline this thing gets a hard pass from me
why?

BTW, there is no console. Did you even click on the link or watch the video?

there is no game to buy.

Yes - if all the google servers go down, you can't play your game. Has that ever happened?


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