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Old 12-29-2017, 08:05 AM
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I mean I have one of those weak foam guns that attaches to the hose and not the actual cannon

I find the cannon gets the soap to stay on the car longer so you don't have to keep using the soap bucket to get more soap on the car. Plus the mix is finer and gets into the nooks and crannies much better to clean them out.
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I'm just gonna say it...

My shop ONLY uses a pressure washer for wheels/tires and wheel wells.
Because it can cause scratching¿?¿

You guys use waterless wash products I guess? Any particular hints or vids that you can show for us that have never used these products before?
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well any idea where I would start for a........GMC Sierra!....... from 2014 that's seen a lot of standard shitty car washes
Charisma or LightningTeg could probably answer this given their experience, I've never even owned a domestic auto

And my formal detailing experience is from 18 years ago at this point, I have enough of a hard time trying to remember last week.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:07 AM
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I mean I have one of those weak foam guns that attaches to the hose and not the actual cannon

I find the cannon gets the soap to stay on the car longer so you don't have to keep using the soap bucket to get more soap on the car. Plus the mix is finer and gets into the nooks and crannies much better to clean them out.
I'm an Optimum No Rinse *****. Been using it since 2007 - that being said, I've tried most methods out there including foam cannons. Each time I find myself back with ONR. If a customer wants their car foamed I'll absolutely do it, but I charge extra.

If you want a good foam cannon check Amazon - IIRC it's like $18. A foam cannon is a foam cannon is a foam cannon IMO. Don't buy into the hype of the $50-90 cannons.
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This. I'm stuck using wash bays for now
I washed the other day when it was high 40s and used hot water, man that made all the difference in my buckets.

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I'm just gonna say it...

My shop ONLY uses a pressure washer for wheels/tires and wheel wells.
Really? Figured pressure washer would be the go to.


What is your wash process if you don't mind sharing?
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I bought the Deuschin one, its $18 on Amazon.
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I think ONR will be my go-to after I get it coated, maybe a real wash once a month so I can spray out wheelwells and the undercarriage.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:11 AM
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Because it can cause scratching¿?¿

You guys use waterless wash products I guess? Any particular hints or vids that you can show for us that have never used these products before?
Rinseless, not waterless. Here's a quick video on how to use Optimum No Rinse:


One of the most important things here is - let the ONR do it's job. Little to no pressure. Often times we take a 2 gallon hand pump sprayer and pre-soak heavily soiled panels and let the ONR emulsify the dirt before we even touch it.
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Okay I just watched some YT vids on the ONR method

I am ******* sold
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well any idea where I would start for a........GMC Sierra!....... from 2014 that's seen a lot of standard shitty car washes
Just starting out, over the counter stuff works pretty well.

Meguiars Ultimate Polish / Compound (compound being more aggressive) is pretty good. I used to only use that for most of the cars I did when I started off and got pretty far with it. That with a "Orange" pad (I used lake country brand) will give a modest cut, and leave the paint pretty much ready for protection depending on how much work you do.

My experience with Corvettes is that they actually have softer clear coats. Very easy to work with.



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Old 12-29-2017, 08:43 AM
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I washed the other day when it was high 40s and used hot water, man that made all the difference in my buckets.
I always use hot water for my buckets

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Rinseless, not waterless. Here's a quick video on how to use Optimum No Rinse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwki2c21pBw

One of the most important things here is - let the ONR do it's job. Little to no pressure. Often times we take a 2 gallon hand pump sprayer and pre-soak heavily soiled panels and let the ONR emulsify the dirt before we even touch it.
Thanks man! I've always known of the no rinse and waterless processes but always thought it was more useful in areas that are not allowed to use a lot of water due to drought and stuff like that.

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Just starting out, over the counter stuff works pretty well.

Meguiars Ultimate Polish / Compound (compound being more aggressive) is pretty good. I used to only use that for most of the cars I did when I started off and got pretty far with it. That with a "Orange" pad (I used lake country brand) will give a modest cut, and leave the paint pretty much ready for protection depending on how much work you do.

My experience with Corvettes is that they actually have softer clear coats. Very easy to work with.
The vette looks awesome

Man that ONR looks so sketchy!

I'm sure it works fine but damn. Dragging that sponge over all that dirt gives me the creeps.

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Man that ONR looks so sketchy!

I'm sure it works fine but damn. Dragging that sponge over all that dirt gives me the creeps.
This was my original thought as well, took a bunch of research to ease my concerns.
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Yea Im sure its no problem as the technologies have been around for a while. Just watching it hurts

Charisma whats your go to polisher?
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Science, bitch! Once you use it it'll ease your mind. A grit guard in a single bucket will show you wonders. If you insist on the 2 bucket-method you'll want ONR at the same 256:1 dilution ratio in both.
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In for dis thread

Im still a single bucket and hose washer

Wash stuff is just off the shelf meguiars or mother's products

Been stockpiling CG products for polishing etc

In for videos also
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:06 AM
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Yea Im sure its no problem as the technologies have been around for a while. Just watching it hurts

Charisma whats your go to polisher?
The rotary.

I've got the Griots Boss (21), Optimum Zentool (21), PC 7424's and the Harbor Freight Special. A dewalt rotary and a makita rotary. They all have their place in my arsenal. The Zentool was my favorite overall, smoothness and sound perspective.
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Science, bitch! Once you use it it'll ease your mind. A grit guard in a single bucket will show you wonders. If you insist on the 2 bucket-method you'll want ONR at the same 256:1 dilution ratio in both.
I use the two bucket but I dont use ONR. I'm going to check it out now though if you insist it's better for reducing or even eliminating swirl marks.

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The rotary.

I've got the Griots Boss (21), Optimum Zentool (21), PC 7424's and the Harbor Freight Special. A dewalt rotary and a makita rotary. They all have their place in my arsenal. The Zentool was my favorite overall, smoothness and sound perspective.
I'm scared of rotary I have the PC. I like it but it makes the job a lot of work so I was thinking about getting one of the Flex polishers. I will check out the Zentool as well though thanks
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I recently got the Griots HD random orbital and its beast. Great for the price but it is loud on '6' lol
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I recently got the Griots HD random orbital and its beast. Great for the price but it is loud on '6' lol
Yea the PC is loud and has a lot of vibration. It's a great tool but I find that maybe using something a little more powerful would reduce the amount of time it takes to get the job done.
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What about interior detailing? What do you guys use?

I use autoglym for the vinyl, multi surface cleaner for gauge cluster/stereo and some 3m glass cleaner.
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What about interior detailing? What do you guys use?

I use autoglym for the vinyl, multi surface cleaner for gauge cluster/stereo and some 3m glass cleaner.
I like the Sonax interior cleaner. It doesn't stink and it leaves a nice matte finish so it's not greasy and it's not shiny.

I use Sonax glass cleaner with a glass cleaning cloth.

For the leather in the Mazda 3 I use products from Excelsior. Both cleaner and conditioner. They make some nice stuff.
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Looks like a good product. I might give it a try after I run out of autoglym. Did you buy it online? I see there a couple retailers in Alberta and one in Ontario.
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Looks like a good product. I might give it a try after I run out of autoglym. Did you buy it online? I see there a couple retailers in Alberta and one in Ontario.
From a local speed shop. Sonax is a good brand. You can buy it on eshine as well. It's a great site for Canadian's.

https://www.eshine.ca/products/sonax...-cleaner-500ml
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I wonder if this is the same stuff as above. I might have to try this out regardless.

https://www.eshine.ca/products/sonax...e-finish-500ml

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Just a couple small scratches in the front bumper

School bus kicked up a license plate that was in the road back in October and it whacked the front bumper. Haven't fixed it yet since I was planning to buy a painted bumper off eBay in the spring and use my original one as a road trip/track day bumper. Plus I wanted to install a JDM grille and the LED foglight bezels while it was off anyways so might as well install them on the new bumper.
So basically a road trip bumper cause... let's be honest...






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So, washed with ONR the 1st time wow. Wash the 2nd time, amazed. But what if you wax afterwards?
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