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Old 05-22-2014, 11:41 AM
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Since the bills usually mean the exact opposite from the name, what freedom did we just lose?
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You mean you guys have your freedom now finally?














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BOOSIE GOT FREED!!!!!
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I'm not as excited as you are.
Privacy and civil liberties activists denounced the measure, saying it had been "gutted" to win agreement from lawmakers, particularly on the Intelligence Committee, who supported the NSA phone records program.

"This legislation was designed to prohibit bulk collection, but has been made so weak that it fails to adequately protect against mass, untargeted collection of Americans' private information," Nuala O'Connor, president and CEO of the Center for Democracy and Technology, said in a statement.

"The bill now offers only mild reform and goes against the overwhelming support for definitively ending bulk collection," she added.
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Ah, so it makes about as much difference as the You Can Spam Act and the Junk Fax Protection Act. Got it.
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Funny story, the guy that wrote it was the same guy behind the Patriot Act
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Even if a bill like this did get passed into law, who really thinks that the NSA/CIA/Homeland Security would actually stop their surveillance programs? And how would we even know if they stopped or not?

I imagine they'd just find a way to continue doing what they've been doing all along.
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Even if a bill like this did get passed into law, who really thinks that the NSA/CIA/Homeland Security would actually stop their surveillance programs? And how would we even know if they stopped or not?

I imagine they'd just find a way to continue doing what they've been doing all along.
This is why I do not get upset about this stuff, there are rational and reasonable methods of nullifying their surveillance. Their system is designed to gather information that would otherwise be difficult to gather, so just make the information easy to gather....
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This post is about as worthless as a solbrothers post, I don't know why you haven't been banned yet.
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Even if a bill like this did get passed into law, who really thinks that the NSA/CIA/Homeland Security would actually stop their surveillance programs? And how would we even know if they stopped or not?

I imagine they'd just find a way to continue doing what they've been doing all along.
It will get passed, but it still does nothing to curb the surveillance. If anything it makes it easier for them to hide behind semantics and technicalities.
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You mean you guys have your freedom now finally?














Not yet, but someday.... someday.
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Its like when Obama promised transparency of .gov if he gets elected.....lol

Least transparent administration EVAR!!!
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Least transparent administration EVAR!!!
Got to be hard being the first black president when half of Washington DC is somewhat racist.


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what do you guys have to hide?

a bunch of terrorists, all of you; how can you be against the freedumb act?
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what do you guys have to hide?
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Got to be hard being the first black president when half of Washington DC is somewhat racist.


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Racists make it hard to be transparent?

Do you ever stop to think about what you are saying before you start pecking away at the keyboard?
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Racists make it hard to be transparent?

Do you ever stop to think about what you are saying before you start pecking away at the keyboard?
It sure does make for a convenient excuse for him being a complete failing liar though. He wasn't aware and people are racist....not his fault at all. His presidency is a flat out joke.
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LEAHY INTRODUCES BILL TO END BULK CALL RECORD COLLECTION

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Sen. Patrick Leahy has introduced an updated, tougher version of the USA FREEDOM Act that would end the bulk collection of data under Section 215 of FISA and also would require the appointment of a panel of special legal advocates who would represent the interests of individual privacy and civil liberties in FISA court hearings.

Leahy’s bill, introduced Tuesday in the Senate, would mark a major change in the way that intelligence agencies in the United States are able to gather phone records and other data. The change that Leahy’s bill introduces is a requirement for agencies to narrow the scope of their collection to a specific selector term and also prevents them from gathering vast amounts of data from broad geographic areas.

The bill would allow agencies still to collect call detail records every day that are a maximum of two hops from a targeted user. But that collection would require the government to “demonstrate reasonable, articulable suspicion that its search term is associated with a foreign terrorist organization.”

Leahy said that he believes the bill represents a major change to the government surveillance landscape.

“If enacted, this bill would represent the most significant reform of government surveillance authorities since Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act 13 years ago,” Leahy said in a floor statement. “This is an historic opportunity, and I am grateful that the bill has the support of the administration, a wide range of privacy and civil liberties groups, and the technology industry.”

The bulk collection of call records under Section 215 has been on of the main focal points of criticism from privacy advocates and others in the wake of the revelations from Edward Snowden in the course of the last year. The provision in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allows for the bulk collection of information from telecom providers. Critics argue that the practice violates U.S. law.

“This is a debate about Americans’ fundamental relationship with their government – about whether our government should have the power to create massive databases of information about its citizens,” Leahy said. “I believe strongly that we must impose stronger limits on government surveillance powers – and I am confident that most Vermonters, and most Americans, agree with me. We need to get this right, and we need to get it done without further delay.”
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One can hope that goes somewhere at least. Death by a thousand cuts does work though.

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It sure does make for a convenient excuse for him being a complete failing liar though. He wasn't aware and people are racist....not his fault at all. His presidency is a flat out joke.
Better to be a flat out joke than a serious threat to anyone.
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HOUSE VOTE SLAMS NSA RECORDS COLLECTION; SENATE NEXT AS 215 DEADLINE LOOMS

The U.S. House of Representatives’ resounding vote on Wednesday to end the National Security Agency’s collection of phone metadata and business records shifts the Senate focus squarely onto the shoulders of Kentucky Republican Senator, Mitch McConnell.

McConnell is a staunch defender of the provisions in the PATRIOT Act—which were recently deemed illegal by a U.S. Circuit Court judge—that have been interpreted by the intelligence agencies as carte blanche permission to collect phone records in the name of national security.

The House vote was 388-88 in favor of the USA FREEDOM Act, which would require court orders from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to obtain particular phone records from carriers and telecommunications companies, which would store the data rather than the U.S. government. Additional pressure comes from a time crunch in that Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act comes up for renewal on June 1.

“I think what’s next is for the Senate to take up USA Freedom and potentially strengthen it,” said Mark M. Jaycox, legislative analyst for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The EFF recently pulled its support of the FREEDOM Act as it’s currently written, hoping for stronger reforms to be written into the bill, while applauding the Second Circuit court ruling.

“The Senate has less than two weeks to get its act together. Senator McConnell can prove that the Senate is a functional body under his leadership by quickly supporting, and moving, for a vote on USA Freedom,” Jaycox said.

McConnell and Senate Intelligence chairman Richard Burr in April penned Senate bill 1035 which would extend Section 215 as it currently reads through 2020, and on the day of the Second Circuit Court ruling, the two senators defended the surveillance program and called for a clean reauthorization. According to the EFF, clean reauthorization means one with no reforms. But that ignores the circuit court ruling and could potentially complicate a rebuttal of Section 215.

“Congress can’t pretend that the Second Circuit’s narrow reading of ‘relevant to an authorized investigation’ doesn’t exist. It’s likely that if Congress merely does a ‘clean’ reauthorization of Section 215, then the district court in ACLU v. Clapper will enjoin the government from using Section 215 as authorization for the call records dragnet, because the district court is bound by the Second Circuit decision,” Jaycox and colleague David Green wrote this week. “However, if a reauthorization made it clear that Congress intended to reject the Second Circuit’s narrow reading of the law, it could cause further confusion and the government could argue that Congress has fully embraced the dragnet.”

Opponents of the FREEDOM Act challenge its ability to guarantee national security and personal liberties. The EFF argues that the act needs to include stronger reforms to repair shortcomings with the FISA court, in particular around transparency and a lack of a true adversary within the court. The EFF is also concerned with the FREEDOM Act granting the government permission to collect “second hop” numbers without authorization. Instead, the EFF wants the government to apply for permission from the court for additional records.

“Automatically obtaining a ‘second hop’ is unacceptable because it sweeps in too many people’s records,” Jaycox and Greene wrote.

Additionally, it urges Congress to put language back into the FREEDOM Act that existed in previous drafts mandating that data collected about people not connected to an investigation be deleted, a higher standard be set for the use of pen register trap-and-trace devices, as well as deleting other provisions around sentencing for supporting terrorism and more.

Earlier today, Sens. Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, urged McConnell to move affirmatively on the FREEDOM Act.

“He should head their call, while also allowing amendments that strengthen the bill,” Jaycox said.
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“He should heed their call, while also allowing amendments that strengthen the bill,” Jaycox said.
Stoopid jurnuhlists At least they got 'their' right...

Looks like rainbows on the horizon. Let's see if we can get some unicorns, too.
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