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So I have this extra PC and I want to replace my H-T PC at home with it. It will be hooked up directly to my TV via hdmi and sound will go through the TV

Hereís what I want to do/need
-ssd - donít care all the much about the size, but 256GB would be nice if in my budget, this thing canít fit two HDís.
-video card, all I want it to handle is 4k video, my current computer canít. I have to use a video card because this computer has no hdmi out, and if I get an hdmi adapter it wonít send sound to the TV.
-this computer has windows 8 pro, I dun give a damn about the operating system, all I do is watch movies. How can I get a fresh windows 8 pro on my new hard drive without paying for anything. I really havenít done a fresh windows install in so long. I really donít want to be screwing around with partitions, bios, boot disks, and all the **** like that which gives me headaches. Whatís the easiest way to do this. I will have a stroke if you say I have to download windows, burn a copy to a dvd, and then use that as a boot disk, go into bios on startup, select boot to cd, yatta yatta yatta. I hate that crap and it never goes as planned.

Can we do all this for under $100. Can you please just make it simple and tell me what to buy and Iím going to buy it like right now. Thanks.

if the windows thing is a pita is there a cheap windows I can buy?




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You might be able to get away with a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter, and avoid a video card altogether. If that thing can output audio on the DP then just get an adapter that supports audio. If not, I'd suggest something like the AMD R5 240 - can be had on EBay for maybe 20 bucks, often with a low pro bracket.

Not sure about Windows, but I thought dells had some little app that let you burn a restore disc?
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Your second post went crazy lols. You'll probably edit it by the time hit reply.

Anyway, these are basically the specs of all the PCs we have in my company (all 20K of them).

Get one of those Samsung SSDs. You don't need anything amazing, most of their stuff is good and SSD pricing has gone down a lot.
Most good video cards can handle 4K now. You don't need a $1K card. BTW I assume your monitor/TV is 4K? If you're going to wire the sound through a receiver, make sure it is 4K passthrough ready. A lot of them aren't.
For Windows 10, I will PM you. If you want Win7, same thing. Wait for my PM.

I don't think you can do it for under $100. The video card is gonna get you.

Samsung 256GB SSD -
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-250GB-Internal-MZ-76E250B-AM/dp/B07864WMK8/ref=sxin_5_osp22-d892bdc6_cov?ascsubtag=d892bdc6-6706-490f-acbe-754d4066eb90&creativeASIN=B07864WMK8&crid=28L95K5MO15AR&cv_ct_id=amzn1.osp.d892bdc6-6706-490f-acbe-754d4066eb90&cv_ct_pg=search&cv_ct_wn=osp-search&keywords=samsung+ssd&linkCode=oas&pd_rd_i=B07864WMK8&pd_rd_r=52df95ca-0a1a-4ca2-a113-9459fb41e55a&pd_rd_w=dkref&pd_rd_wg=IhwiQ&pf_rd_p=43ba9e17-96f5-4491-b054-e546013f7dc4&pf_rd_r=CPVYART2JSNJPHYHV1E8&qid=1560446431&s=gateway&sprefix=samsun%2Caps%2C202&tag=reviewedoap-20 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-250GB-Internal-MZ-76E250B-AM/dp/B07864WMK8/ref=sxin_5_osp22-d892bdc6_cov?ascsubtag=d892bdc6-6706-490f-acbe-754d4066eb90&creativeASIN=B07864WMK8&crid=28L95K5MO15AR&cv_ct_id=amzn1.osp.d892bdc6-6706-490f-acbe-754d4066eb90&cv_ct_pg=search&cv_ct_wn=osp-search&keywords=samsung+ssd&linkCode=oas&pd_rd_i=B07864WMK8&pd_rd_r=52df95ca-0a1a-4ca2-a113-9459fb41e55a&pd_rd_w=dkref&pd_rd_wg=IhwiQ&pf_rd_p=43ba9e17-96f5-4491-b054-e546013f7dc4&pf_rd_r=CPVYART2JSNJPHYHV1E8&qid=1560446431&s=gateway&sprefix=samsun%2Caps%2C202&tag=reviewedoap-20

Video card - Quickly browsing, this is probably on the cheap end of something that'll play 4K well without any skips. https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-...-311-_-Product

EDIT: A GTX 1050 or 1650 should work too -
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1650OC-4GD/dp/B07QHGKC2D/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=gtx+1650&qid=1560446804&s=gateway&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1650OC-4GD/dp/B07QHGKC2D/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=gtx+1650&qid=1560446804&s=gateway&sr=8-4
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Originally Posted by scelestus View Post
You might be able to get away with a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter, and avoid a video card altogether. If that thing can output audio on the DP then just get an adapter that supports audio. If not, I'd suggest something like the AMD R5 240 - can be had on EBay for maybe 20 bucks, often with a low pro bracket.

Not sure about Windows, but I thought dells had some little app that let you burn a restore disc?
it looks like that video card does not have hdmi out, I also have no idea how to find out if the display port outputs audio. I'd rather just buy my problem away with a video card.

Yeah but I don't want to restore, this is some office workers computer, I want a clean slate of windows.
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I took home my old work computer after I restored it, same model that you have. I went with a video card that would run off the crappy power supply in this thing, and so far, works great! A little over your budget, but worth it IMO.
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Your second post went crazy lols. You'll probably edit it by the time hit reply.

Anyway, these are basically the specs of all the PCs we have in my company (all 20K of them).

Get one of those Samsung SSDs. You don't need anything amazing, most of their stuff is good and SSD pricing has gone down a lot.
Most good video cards can handle 4K now. You don't need a $1K card. BTW I assume your monitor/TV is 4K? If you're going to wire the sound through a receiver, make sure it is 4K passthrough ready. A lot of them aren't.
For Windows 10, I will PM you. If you want Win7, same thing. Wait for my PM.

I don't think you can do it for under $100. The video card is gonna get you.

Samsung 256GB SSD - https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-250GB...reviewedoap-20

Video card - Quickly browsing, this is probably on the cheap end of something that'll play 4K well without any skips. https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-...-311-_-Product

EDIT: A GTX 1050 or 1650 should work too - https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeFo...gateway&sr=8-4

Do you think those will even fit in the case? Also you think my power supply can handle those.

I am disappointed I need a nice video card. I thought just watching 4k videos was easy peasy processing power.
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it looks like that video card does not have hdmi out, I also have no idea how to find out if the display port outputs audio. I'd rather just buy my problem away with a video card.
A lot of them are DisplayPort yeah, but they should all output audio with an adapter. Found this 340X that has the adapter with it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-DVI-De...cAAOSwrCpc6qt8
EDIT: The more I dig around on 4K acceleration you may have better luck with the built in Intel graphics.

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Yeah but I don't want to restore, this is some office workers computer, I want a clean slate of windows.
This is what I meant - depends on if the machine still has the original Dell setup or if it was imaged by the company, but since I don't know that I was guessing...
https://www.dell.com/support/article...covery?lang=en
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Do you think those will even fit in the case? Also you think my power supply can handle those.

I am disappointed I need a nice video card. I thought just watching 4k videos was easy peasy processing power.
Yah they will fit. That one slot you see is a video card slot. I mean you can't go nuts since it is a business/work type device (OptiPlex).

4K can be handled by a processor, but it may slow down other stuff. It also isn't optimized for it so while it can probably run, it'll be choppy.
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Max output power of power supply = 255w fyi
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Not worth modifying IMO, especially for $100.

Those Optiplex are barebones task worker machines intended for the trash when they're done with them.

You're going to over power the PSU assuming you can even fit a graphics card in there, some DisplayPort out *can* do audio + HDMI as part of a converter cable if it's an "Active' cable.

Spend the $100 towards an AppleTV 4K

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-a...?skuId=5901530

$70 more and you get something much smaller and intended to have 4K output...
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Not worth modifying IMO, especially for $100.

Those Optiplex are barebones task worker machines intended for the trash when they're done with them.

You're going to over power the PSU assuming you can even fit a graphics card in there, some DisplayPort out *can* do audio + HDMI as part of a converter cable if it's an "Active' cable.

Spend the $100 towards an AppleTV 4K

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-a...?skuId=5901530

$70 more and you get something much smaller and intended to have 4K output...
stop crushing my dreams, this is actually going to be my only home PC, while I mostly watch 4k movies with it, I do use it for mild stuff like occasional word processing and ordering stuff from amazon. I can't DL torrents from apple TV either.

how is it that those little itty bitty boxes support smooth 4k and I need 1.21 gigawatts of power and a $150 video card
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wait I didn't realize that I have "displayports" and they are very similar to HDMI, maybe I'll give that a whirl

It seems like they all have audio out no?
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Display ports sometimes can support audio (like HDMI) but it really depends if your board/port allows it and if your cable is correct. Muffinman is correct in that those OptiPlexes are usually barebones systems made for the workplace. We buy hundreds of them and deploy golden images to them. Easy to manage, but can't do much besides basic work stuff.
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Found this: https://www.dell.com/community/Deskt...o/td-p/4434204 It worked on a 7010. I'd pick up a DPort to HDMI adapter and see what happens.
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stop crushing my dreams, this is actually going to be my only home PC, while I mostly watch 4k movies with it, I do use it for mild stuff like occasional word processing and ordering stuff from amazon. I can't DL torrents from apple TV either.

how is it that those little itty bitty boxes support smooth 4k and I need 1.21 gigawatts of power and a $150 video card
They're purpose built device and not bottom barrel office computers. Seriously. A $100 budget barely gets you the SSD I'd recommend, the
Samsung 860 EVO 512GB Samsung 860 EVO 512GB

256GB cuts it a little close when you start adding apps, downloading stuff, have movies and such on it. I had a 128GB SSD for a while and reallllly tried hard to not put stuff on it. 512GB is a good sweet spot between price and storage space. The current GPU (integrated) on that desktop isn't intended for heavy video stuff (gaming, etc) and you're likely to overheat the thing if you run 4K too long with the stock cooling.

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wait I didn't realize that I have "displayports" and they are very similar to HDMI, maybe I'll give that a whirl

It seems like they all have audio out no?
SOME DisplayPorts can support audio, not all of them. I recently repurposed a Dell Optiplex (super small form factor, think it's a 9020) which does have an active DisplayPort.

IF it does audio, you're going to need
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I have a space quad-core i7 with 16GB of memory Dell Optiplex 9020m that I'll send you, the little dude burnt out his motherboard though so you'll need to replace that (~$30 on eBay) and it needs a PSU.

I'll warn you that even after I re-did the thermal paste with Arctic Silver and such it will overheat and shutoff after 1080p Netflix. The machines just really aren't meant to do that stuff.
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GT 1030's with display port out that can do 4k/60hz are $80 shipped on Ebay. The key is to make sure you get one that supports display port. Some of the HDMI only models don't support full 4k/60fps over HDMI.
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Help us understand what you're doing with this that a $59 Chromecast Ultra cannot do. Just illegally downloaded movies?

Do people actually use HTPC's anymore with the advent of all the sub $100 devices that do this seamlessly with a smartphone or tablet?
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Help us understand what you're doing with this that a $59 Chromecast Ultra cannot do. Just illegally downloaded movies?

Do people actually use HTPC's anymore with the advent of all the sub $100 devices that do this seamlessly with a smartphone or tablet?
Yeah I forgot about that. Netflix 4K is like $15/month or something? And Chromecast can support it as well.

As long as your internal wifi can handle it, a Chromecast might solve everything. It is what I use.
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The right step at this time is to buy this with free 1-day shipping and no tax, and if it doesn't work out, stick it in your mailbox and return it for free. Why on earth would you first waste time shopping and piecing something together, if this fits the bill (which it may or may not). This is seriously a no brainer. You lose, nerds.

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Help us understand what you're doing with this that a $59 Chromecast Ultra cannot do.
He doesn't have another PC at home and he wants to be able to use this as his home PC in a pinch - makes total sense.
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He doesn't have another PC at home and he wants to be able to use this as his home PC in a pinch - makes total sense.
So instead of having a computer (that will work fine as-is) for his daily tasks and a specific device made for the TV, you're suggesting that spending more money for an inferior all-in-one solution is the better idea?
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