Bill Cosby Gets It - Page 3 - Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion


General Discussion and Debate Discuss, Debate, and Converse with other Honda-Tech members in a mature, intelligent manner.

Bill Cosby Gets It

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-19-2013, 07:30 AM   #51
Lan
Honda-Tech Member
 
Lan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SacraMEGA, CA, USA
Posts: 3,737
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Truth ^ My wife is gone 12 hours a day, sometimes more than 9 days straight, with hours that vary from 5am to 11pm. Makes home life tough for two parents, let alone one. We have been doing more with less since 08. Thanks Obama.
Lan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 07:32 AM   #52
be water, my friend
Thread Starter
 
metaphor51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 80
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

GLD,

I was raised by a single mother in the suburbs of Los Angeles (Glendora, CA if it matters). My mother would drop us (my brother, sister, and myself) off at school at then go to work and we wouldn't see her again until 7:30pm if she was lucky. She spent (often still does, but we've all since moved out) 4 hours a day in traffic (2 hours each way). She made/makes good money (6 figures). A lot of my friends had the same situation growing up. Most were lower on the income bracket but the lack of parental supervision was indentical.

Still, what Bill Cosby says doesn't apply to us. Why?

I wouldn't call us 'rich' but we were well off.

We did drugs and raised hell (skateboarding, graffiti, etc.) so I don't think that's the reason.

We listened to rap music (white suburban youth is the majority consumer of all things rap).

For some reason, it didn't turn us into a whole community of idiots (to be frank).

The question is why?

I would say it's because we had decent influences from uncles/cousins/etc. and knew that ignorance is nothing to brag about.
Intelligence was held in a high regard, even if you got less than stellar grades

It's an interesting discussion
metaphor51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 07:40 AM   #53
Honda-Tech Member
 
<StevieG>'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lebanon, PA, USA
Posts: 3,280
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

my man, bill jay-E double-L OHHHHHH **** crosby!
<StevieG> is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 07:46 AM   #54
816d16 owes me money!
iTrader: (1)
 
usdm420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Sofa King
Posts: 4,520
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoLowDrew View Post
Let's try to answer this question. Most parents are lucky to get even 2 hours with their kids each day.

And those are not 2 quality hours. Parents get home, cook dinner, wash dishes, wash up, and tuck them in for bed.

When I lived in California, I would spend zero time with my son. Work was 2 hours away one-way on a good day. 3 hours when traffic was bad. Why do we do this? So we can provide a house for the family, and maybe live in a good hood.

How many thousands of people do this? Judging from the bumper to bumper traffic at 4:50am, it's the norm. It's the American way of life. It's the American dream that we all chase after.

Yes, it was a bitch. So we say f-uck it. Took a 50% pay cut and moved to another state. My drive is 45 mins to work today.

How many are still stuck and did not take that option?

I moved to Northern AZ JUST for this reason. Along with cheaper living costs, cheaper gas, and zero traffic.
usdm420 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:07 AM   #55
Honda-Tech Member
 
jay_cue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: san diego, ca, usa
Posts: 815
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoLowDrew View Post

How many are still stuck and did not take that option?

not even once. I live in San Diego, and guess lucky enough to live 8 miles from home. get off at 6 and latest i get home is about 6:20-6:25. I don't understand some of the people I work with who live 50+ miles from work.
jay_cue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:11 AM   #56
MEAT PATTY
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: White Suburbia, PA
Posts: 5,638
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by metaphor51 View Post
Or you can add to the discussion with your own experiences/beliefs?
But either way.

EDIT: and for the record, this thread is about Bill Cosby's comments in regard to the black community. He (being a black man) basically said the same thing all us 'white people with one or two black friends' said. Why do you think that is? I welcome a differing opinion especially if you have actual experience in said environment.
I would converse with you guys but Iím jaded by the shear amount of topics about the black community in general on this site. While other nationalities are never scrutinized nor talked about to the degree of the black community, you guys are fascinated by the black people in all the wrong ways.

The mob mentality on this site is disgusting whenever the subject is about black people. Nothing I care to partake in considering itís like talking to a barn door with most of you guys/trolls.

Peace.
goforbroke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #57
I ask Twitter, not xtrac1
iTrader: (1)
 
rico91stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: THE Bay Area
Posts: 3,208
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by goforbroke View Post
I would converse with you guys but Iím jaded by the shear amount of topics about the black community in general on this site. While other nationalities are never scrutinized nor talked about to the degree of the black community, you guys are fascinated by the black people in all the wrong ways.

The mob mentality on this site is disgusting whenever the subject is about black people. Nothing I care to partake in considering itís like talking to a barn door with most of you guys/trolls.

Peace.
If you can't then **** it I will.
rico91stang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:19 AM   #58
be water, my friend
Thread Starter
 
metaphor51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 80
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by goforbroke View Post
I would converse with you guys but Iím jaded by the shear amount of topics about the black community in general on this site. While other nationalities are never scrutinized nor talked about to the degree of the black community, you guys are fascinated by the black people in all the wrong ways.

The mob mentality on this site is disgusting whenever the subject is about black people. Nothing I care to partake in considering itís like talking to a barn door with most of you guys/trolls.

Peace.
While I cannot speak for everyone, and I agree there are A LOT of trolls on the subject, I came across this Bill Cosby quote and thought it was interesting in light of the whole George Zimmerman verdict and reaction.

I posted this and am trying to have a legitimate conversation on the topic. I think it's going well and it's not hard to spot and skip over the trolls and have an enlightened discussion.

Again, I am open to all opinions on the subject.

But you claim it's racism and don't partake, leaving the discussion to a few with actual opinions and a few trolls.

If people have differing opinions and don't speak up, they are just as responsible for the popularity of the trolls. If there were 10 people having a serious discussion and 2 trolls it would be much different.

Now that I think about it, GDD is just like the community Bill Cosby is talking about. Intelligence is silent and ignorance is loud and commonplace.

You're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution
metaphor51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:20 AM   #59
I ask Twitter, not xtrac1
iTrader: (1)
 
rico91stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: THE Bay Area
Posts: 3,208
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by metaphor51 View Post
Or you can add to the discussion with your own experiences/beliefs?
But either way.

EDIT: and for the record, this thread is about Bill Cosby's comments in regard to the black community. He (being a black man) basically said the same thing all us 'white people with one or two black friends' said. Why do you think that is? I welcome a differing opinion especially if you have actual experience in said environment.
What Cosby fails to realize is the poverty levels of African americans are a contributory factor to the violence. We have a system that makes it VERY difficult to to escape poverty successfully. Young blacks turn to selling drugs and violence as a way out, but lack the education to build on money earned illegally. What people don't understand is a small time drug dealer pays no taxes. So their take home is equal to a Doctor or Lawyer. It is FAST money too.
rico91stang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:25 AM   #60
be water, my friend
Thread Starter
 
metaphor51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 80
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

So what about the predominantly white neighborhoods that are just as poor (while not as prevalent) as the poor black communities?

Are they just as gang and drug riddled and we don't see it because it's not on the news and GDD doesn't make threads about it? (serious question)

If not, why?

EDIT: My honest guess would be the amount of people packed into such a small amount of space (project buildings) makes it worse. Maybe
metaphor51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:25 AM   #61
Member
 
GoLowDrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: East Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 88,608
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by metaphor51 View Post

It's an interesting discussion
Yes it is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by usdm420 View Post
I moved to Northern AZ JUST for this reason. Along with cheaper living costs, cheaper gas, and zero traffic.
Same here. Do you know why gas is "cheaper" here in AZ? Consider there is no harbor and oil comes from the middle east. The Alaska pipe line (or one of those) runs down into AZ. So there is "less" transportation cost. 120 degrees is not that bad (with AC working OT).

Quote:
Originally Posted by jay_cue View Post
I don't understand some of the people I work with who live 50+ miles from work.
My 2hr drive was exactly 67 miles away. There was no choice back then. I could not afford a 1 hr hour drive for 600K-700K old house in the SF bay area. Living close to work would cost me $850-$1M for a 75 year old beater house. So I moved to Central CA.

There were many horrific accidents on 205 and 580. Just sad sometimes to see people leave for work, like I do, and they are not going home.
GoLowDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:29 AM   #62
I ask Twitter, not xtrac1
iTrader: (1)
 
rico91stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: THE Bay Area
Posts: 3,208
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by metaphor51 View Post
So what about the predominantly white neighborhoods that are just as poor (while not as prevalent) as the poor black communities?

Are they just as gang and drug riddled and we don't see it because it's not on the news and GDD doesn't make threads about it? (serious question)

If not, why?

EDIT: My honest guess would be the amount of people packed into such a small amount of space (project buildings) makes it worse. Maybe
I say poverty is a CONTRIBUTORY factor. Social status is another. Blacks simply aren't valued as much as whites. This leads to self esteem issued that leads to a nihilist mindset. There still are underlying racial feelings of superiority from poorer whites. At least they can feel good about themselves. These feelings are not shared by blacks. Poorer blacks tend to have self esteem/self worth issues.
rico91stang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:34 AM   #63
El Chico
 
Knightsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: The Deep Web
Posts: 100,686
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Bill Cosby should realize it's not about race anymore but class. (Socioeconomic Status)

Lower class white, brown, yellow, etc. all struggle to adequately parent their children. Why? Oh I'm sure Bill's annecdotal tales of poor English and lack of pride in appearance happen because I've seen it. But the reality is that most kids don't get adequate parenting because their parents have to work 2-3 jobs to equal one middle class white collar job. That's just to maintain a house in an undesireable neighborhood and keep what little food on the table they can.

Kids aren't born with values. They absorb and learn them from people they respect and look up to but if those people happen to be the local meth dealer, crack dealer, etc. then that's what they end up assigning value to themselves. You might hear a few success stories coming out of poorer areas but that generally happens when extended family is around to pick up the "parenting" slack.

So Bill is right but his perception is skewed by his wealth like most "rich folk," who think poor people ought to just quit being so damn poor.
Knightsport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:37 AM   #64
rookn00b
iTrader: (2)
 
xtrac1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,640
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

We, as black folks have to do a better job.


We? What we?

All you can do is make sure you do the best you can and maybe help others that are less fortunate along the way.

We?


Shut the **** up Bill.
xtrac1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:46 AM   #65
I ask Twitter, not xtrac1
iTrader: (1)
 
rico91stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: THE Bay Area
Posts: 3,208
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by xtrac1 View Post
We, as black folks have to do a better job.


We? What we?

All you can do is make sure you do the best you can and maybe help others that are less fortunate along the way.

We?


Shut the **** up Bill.
That mentality is what HURTS the black community. It WILL take all of us together working. It took all of us for the Civil Rights movement.
rico91stang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:47 AM   #66
rookn00b
iTrader: (2)
 
xtrac1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,640
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

We, as a purplish/lavender color, must do a better job.

lulz!
xtrac1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:47 AM   #67
Member
 
GoLowDrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: East Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 88,608
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsport View Post
You might hear a few success stories coming out of poorer areas but that generally happens when extended family is around to pick up the "parenting" slack.
I used to do tax returns (in the hood) at East Palo Alto (CA). There would be people coming in and need help with their tax returns. They have 0-4 kids, but would claim 6-7. What?

How come? Their son is in jail, their brother is jail, don't know where their daughter went, and he-she became the legal guardian of the kid, or at least for tax purposes based on the level of support.

I did my job to ask the questions, and not 2nd guess their answers, to qualify. Someone got to take those kids in.
GoLowDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:52 AM   #68
H-T Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Clayton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 4,423
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsport View Post
Bill Cosby should realize it's not about race anymore but class. (Socioeconomic Status)

Lower class white, brown, yellow, etc. all struggle to adequately parent their children. Why? Oh I'm sure Bill's annecdotal tales of poor English and lack of pride in appearance happen because I've seen it. But the reality is that most kids don't get adequate parenting because their parents have to work 2-3 jobs to equal one middle class white collar job. That's just to maintain a house in an undesireable neighborhood and keep what little food on the table they can.

Kids aren't born with values. They absorb and learn them from people they respect and look up to but if those people happen to be the local meth dealer, crack dealer, etc. then that's what they end up assigning value to themselves. You might hear a few success stories coming out of poorer areas but that generally happens when extended family is around to pick up the "parenting" slack.

So Bill is right but his perception is skewed by his wealth like most "rich folk," who think poor people ought to just quit being so damn poor.
Couldn't agree more. I honestly think society's issue (not a black or white issue) is greed. Plain and simple we're all programmed to think we need to own XYZ, and live to a certain standard. The American dream if you will. If people would just realize that there is more to life than what we own, we'd be better off.
Clayton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:55 AM   #69
I ask Twitter, not xtrac1
iTrader: (1)
 
rico91stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: THE Bay Area
Posts: 3,208
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsport View Post

Kids aren't born with values. They absorb and learn them from people they respect and look up to but if those people happen to be the local meth dealer, crack dealer, etc. then that's what they end up assigning value to themselves.
That is why the community needs to band together to GET RID OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. Its a cultural thing to not call the cops and snitch. Poorer blacks need to police their neighborhoods. Be parents like Cosby says. The stop snitching thing is what keeps the neighborhoods rife with crime.
rico91stang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 08:59 AM   #70
be water, my friend
Thread Starter
 
metaphor51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 80
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

The mentality is the issue. It's the same as the 'stop snitching' paired with the cops don't care about black people mentality.

Maybe it's not a black thing, but there are poor white communities that don't have these issues to the extent blacks do.

WHY?

Is it because there are so many people living in such close proximity to each other?

It's not about the style of clothes or slang used in conversing, it's deeper than that for sure.

EDIT: Rico beat me to it.

IDK if he's trolling (I know he's not black) but he's making a good point.

I agree with GK and Clayton to an extent, but I think the bottom line is that people need to accept responsibility for their actions and their communities.

If my child is looking up to a meth dealer as a role model, I have failed as a parent.
metaphor51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 09:04 AM   #71
Me Gusta History
 
accordselux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,415
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoLowDrew View Post
Thank you.

So where do we go from here?

I hope you understand my response was to troll (and not to put the responsibility on the Teachers). I apologize if Teachers (like yourself) take offense to that.

The point I want to make is, to shift it back to the parents, rightfully so, it is their kid, does not work.

We can say all the "right things" all day, and it's not going to work. Life is hard.

The conclusion? We as a society, as a group, as Americans will failed. Anyone agree? If we can not get our family life together, get our kids right, how is our future going to look?

Many in this generation already have f-ucked up parents. So what's next?

I don't know.
What we need is joint effort. Look, I'm doing this to help your kids, I'm sure as **** not doing it for $40k/yr. I'm here because I like my subject and I want to help people grow up to be inquisitive and intelligent.

You stuck something somewhere and this kid came out. Even if you don't like that outcome, you have that kid now, and your job is to love them and take care of them. They're not going to grow up and be productive if you don't put on a brave face and tell them to stay focused in school and reinforce it at home. You don't need to be their buddy or friend, you need to set ground rules and follow through.

What is learned at school is reinforced at home, what is learned at home is reinforced in school. This applies only to behavior/education; I'm not calling for assimilation.

People need to realize that even if college is a scam and the system is a joke, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot if you don't have a high school diploma for students graduating in the future. We as a society have moved past that.
accordselux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 09:09 AM   #72
I ask Twitter, not xtrac1
iTrader: (1)
 
rico91stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: THE Bay Area
Posts: 3,208
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by metaphor51 View Post
The mentality is the issue. It's the same as the 'stop snitching' paired with the cops don't care about black people mentality.

Maybe it's not a black thing, but there are poor white communities that don't have these issues to the extent blacks do.

WHY?

Is it because there are so many people living in such close proximity to each other?

It's not about the style of clothes or slang used in conversing, it's deeper than that for sure.

EDIT: Rico beat me to it.

IDK if he's trolling (I know he's not black) but he's making a good point.

I agree with GK and Clayton to an extent, but I think the bottom line is that people need to accept responsibility for their actions and their communities.

If my child is looking up to a meth dealer as a role model, I have failed as a parent.
I am black.

I can argue both sides of the coin. Since people like GFB, Allurian, and ITRbroham no longer participate in these discussions, I have to do their part. Quite frankly I have a lot more experience than all of them combined so I will probably do a better job at it than them.
rico91stang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 09:12 AM   #73
Me Gusta History
 
accordselux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,415
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsport View Post
Bill Cosby should realize it's not about race anymore but class. (Socioeconomic Status)

Lower class white, brown, yellow, etc. all struggle to adequately parent their children. Why? Oh I'm sure Bill's annecdotal tales of poor English and lack of pride in appearance happen because I've seen it. But the reality is that most kids don't get adequate parenting because their parents have to work 2-3 jobs to equal one middle class white collar job. That's just to maintain a house in an undesireable neighborhood and keep what little food on the table they can.

Kids aren't born with values. They absorb and learn them from people they respect and look up to but if those people happen to be the local meth dealer, crack dealer, etc. then that's what they end up assigning value to themselves. You might hear a few success stories coming out of poorer areas but that generally happens when extended family is around to pick up the "parenting" slack.

So Bill is right but his perception is skewed by his wealth like most "rich folk," who think poor people ought to just quit being so damn poor.
My wife had a student who's parent blamed the kid's bad behavior on a dad who was in prison (and never met the kid). "Aw he's bad because his daddy's bad. I can't do anything. I unplug the TV and he turns it back on."

I had a student who wasn't putting in much effort, so the mom called me up and yelled at me about her grade. I had her come in and work with me during my prep hour. I gave her the assignments she didn't complete and walked her through them and gave her credit for late work. I gave her a guide on how to make decisions on the test (applying the concepts). I gave her mom email updates whenever she made progress or handed stuff in. Never got a response to those. She still failed everything. And you know what I got for the extra hours and effort I put in? She took the time to email me another hate letter and told me I didn't care, and that I'm not a good teacher.

One was white, and the other was black. It's socioeconomic status like KS mentioned. Kids don't see success, kids don't have behavior and expectations reinforced, kids don't have many options with their lives and feel it's not worth it. That's based on income and social status, not race. The only thing that makes it a black issue is that is the predominately low income minority group, look at the charts. Latinos, Asians, etc. have a lower rate of unemployment, poverty, etc. excluding Native Americans, which is a whole other depressing topic.

And I have worked with a whole bunch of minority and low income students, of many ethnicities and cultures. This isn't "I read the newspaper and now am complaining".

Last edited by accordselux; 07-19-2013 at 04:33 PM.
accordselux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #74
Honda-Tech Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: near where the devils play, NJ
Posts: 627
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Did bill actually say what's in the op? he gets a lot of stuff attributed to him that he didn't actually say.

I think a lot of people have valid points, but they're missing a huge factor in dealing with the problem of the "black community." it's not a homogenous entity, they're blacks, africans, carribeans, afro-hispanics, etc. they're are distinct cultural differences in each group. When talking about the "black community" let's assume we're talking specifically about black americans. Also I'm not speaking for everyone, nor am I speaking about everyone.

All of the black community's problems stem from a very persistent feeling of otherness. They see themselves as not a part of the american community, but a part of a "lost civilization." They're not african and they're not american. They don't have a specific cultural identity. So, over time they have co-opted some traits that may or may not be good and called them "blackness." along with a persistent feeling of being victimized and a sense of education being white, this separatism is the root cause of the seeming dysfunction in the black community.
jdmwannabee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2013, 09:33 AM   #75
Member
 
GoLowDrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: East Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 88,608
Default Re: Bill Cosby Gets It

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmwannabee View Post
All of the black community's problems stem from a very persistent feeling of otherness. They see themselves as not a part of the american community, but a part of a "lost civilization." They're not african and they're not american. They don't have a specific cultural identity. So, over time they have co-opted some traits that may or may not be good and called them "blackness." along with a persistent feeling of being victimized and a sense of education being white, this separatism is the root cause of the seeming dysfunction in the black community.
Very good point. A 2nd gen Russian kid will be 100% accepted as an American. He will look and be like everyone else. A 7th gen Japanese kid will sometimes hear "Go back to your country..." A Mexican kid will be treated and expected to be different based on if he is lighter skin or darker? So it's "easier" for AA to just Keepinitreal Nowhatimean?
GoLowDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Police thread: Cottonwood Walmart Brawl/Shooting J.EM1 General Discussion and Debate 113 04-14-2015 12:15 PM
Nicotine patch? slomofo Tech / Misc 7 03-12-2014 05:28 PM
Would you make V-day reservations at McD's? spectacle General Discussion and Debate 4 02-13-2014 06:28 AM
Went Wee-Wee In My Pants In Wally World! O RLY General Discussion and Debate 32 05-18-2006 07:47 PM
Togo Republic 419 Kill (long and cool) Accord94DX Kill Stories 90 09-20-2004 12:17 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:57 PM.