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2020 Toyota Supra ; Underwhelming AF

 
Old 05-15-2019, 12:56 PM
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:57 PM
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I dunno man, with the advancements in engine/fuel management nowadays, I can see a pretty good amount of boost lasting a LONG time.

It isn't like 10-15 years ago.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:01 PM
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I dunno man, with the advancements in engine/fuel management nowadays, I can see a pretty good amount of boost lasting a LONG time.

It isn't like 10-15 years ago.
Yeah but not with obd1, don't even have knock sensors

not saying you can't control it, just that it hasn't advanced
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:08 PM
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No, it's simply that you cannot accept the fact that there are people out there who can do stuff right. According to you everybody should be blowing up their engines because you did it.
You are doing it wrong!
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Are you guys still talking about the Z4pra?
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According to you everybody should be blowing up their engines because you did it.
no I said real men should be blowing up their engines
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Originally Posted by slomofo View Post
Are you guys still talking about the Z4pra?
The Zupra
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Are you guys still talking about the Z4pra?

And GTR's and MKIV's and Hondas on 8psi and GS Vettes
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:21 AM
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The more reviews I see, the more I'm starting to like it. Still think it should've been a Toyota car, but **** it...it is what it is.
Interesting note though....these guys did the 0-60 test...and best they did was 4.1

Also, looks like there's a bar directly behind the seats to help support them in spirited driving and it turns out the seats bang/rub against that bar when going around track. Anyone with kids can tell you that any kinda of bump against the back of your seat when driving gets annoying as ****.

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Old 05-16-2019, 07:16 AM
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The most impressive thing about the supra is the handling, it’s got some crazy handles

Listen to this

“Despite wearing modestly sized Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires—that, yes, are branded with BMW's star (★) designation—the Supra averaged a heroic 1.07 g on the skidpad. That hangs with just about anything not wearing DOT-approved track tires like the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 or Pirelli P Zero Corsas”

Now here’s the skidpad numbers for a brand spanking new gt3 manual with none other than.....Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2’s
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.08 g

New supra is a handling monster.

For reference the best handling car I think I’ve ever driven is the camaro SS. Just nuts how it handles. That’s only .97g. They put the camaro handling on steroids and call it the ss 1le. That pulls 1.05g. So the supra even out handles that.

supra going to be very fast around a track and all you need to do better is more power, which is the easiest thing by far to increase, especially when it’s a proven turbo straight 6.

Cliffs- bolt on supra+ stickier tires= supercar slayer
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:27 AM
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For hatch -Unfortunately, it still pales in comparison to a bolt on corvette grand sport. Which would put down 500whp and stock has a road holding of a ridiculous 1.18g’s
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:43 AM
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Skid pad numbers are mostly about mechanical grip, not overall handling.

That being said, it should have good handling. In fact, it may even match the performance of the BMW Z4
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:09 AM
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Skid pad numbers are mostly about mechanical grip, not overall handling.
I guess they are not indicative of the fun factor, but they are pretty damn indicative of overall measurable handling and is a great baseline to rate them at.

Just like hp/weight is indicative of acceleration. Is it everything, no. But it is THE fundamental figure in acceleration.

Power, weight, and lateral g force trumps all other stats
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Almost like I've been saying this thing will be the next CTR thread. Everyone hates on it at first, hates on it more, slowly come around as they realize it's a super capable car just doesn't need the big numbers to do it. I'm really wanting to buy one now. Can have the two most hated cars on H-T that outrun 99% of them
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:24 AM
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The more reviews I see, the more I'm starting to like it. Still think it should've been a Toyota car, but **** it...it is what it is.
Interesting note though....these guys did the 0-60 test...and best they did was 4.1

Also, looks like there's a bar directly behind the seats to help support them in spirited driving and it turns out the seats bang/rub against that bar when going around track. Anyone with kids can tell you that any kinda of bump against the back of your seat when driving gets annoying as ****.

https://youtu.be/iP5k10iCOlE
Yea but it's only from spirited driving. Can't see the video but I think I know the review you're talking about, where they have the 2 guys take turns on it at the track.

I would say maybe 3% of people buying this car will likely track it. I doubt the majority of people buying the car will likely see the track.

I would buy one, but I'd probably wait 1-2 years for a possible MT, or upgraded trim
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Yea but it's only from spirited driving. Can't see the video but I think I know the review you're talking about, where they have the 2 guys take turns on it at the track.

I would say maybe 3% of people buying this car will likely track it. I doubt the majority of people buying the car will likely see the track.

I would buy one, but I'd probably wait 1-2 years for a possible MT, or upgraded trim
Yeah but I'd imagine people would be doing spirited driving a lot in this thing. They mentioned it, but kept ripping around so maybe it's not THAT bad?
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:52 AM
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So I was randomly doing some OG supra research

There are guys running 800-1000whp on stock shortblocks. I knew it was a high number, but that's ******* bonkers.

I saw on a forum one guy who reported he's at 900whp, and he built a long block to swap it out when it goes. Now his built longblock has been sitting for years and he regrets ever building it.

how crazy is it that a little ol japanese 3 litre straight six can handle more power than a bugatti veyron, and is probably more reliable at that power level to boot
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I been trying to tell you this for PAGES man lol
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Almost like I've been saying this thing will be the next CTR thread. Everyone hates on it at first, hates on it more, slowly come around as they realize it's a super capable car just doesn't need the big numbers to do it. I'm really wanting to buy one now. Can have the two most hated cars on H-T that outrun 99% of them
Outrun us before or after you had to install that oil cooler to keep the car from overheating?
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:12 AM
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Why do you keep going after the oil cooler? Any turbo car that gets road raced will need one unless you’re slow putting around.
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Why do you keep going after the oil cooler? Any turbo car that gets road raced will need one unless you’re slow putting around.
Because I owned a c7z and people went after those relentlessly for "overheating on track". You're telling me the ctr which is designed to be tracked needs an aftermarket cooler and that's ok? We owe the c7z an apology then.
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We also have to give the GTR a break for overheating its transmission on track too.
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My goodness you're lame.
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