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Old 01-18-2017, 11:01 AM
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Some changes:

V6 model gets the axe.

Both the 4 cylinder EcoBoost and V-8 GT gets a power boost.

GT uses both port and direct injection and a bump in compression ratio, 11.0:1 to 12.0:1.

Ford MagneRide magnetorheological adaptive dampers available in both (4cyl/8cyl) performance packages.

Six-speed manual transmission (which gets a twin-disc clutch and a new dual-mass flywheel on V8 models)

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10-speed auto co-developed with GM.

















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Not bad. Looks like a Mazda 3 front end
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This is the image I was waiting for. Everyone is hating on the front end and I couldn't see the difference.
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Direct and port injection? Wow nice

Mag ride + stiffer chassis

Someone wants to stopped getting molested by the camaro, wonder if it will work
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I don't like the head lights.
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wonder if you can swap bellhousings on the 10 speed? hmmm
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:27 AM
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wonder if you can swap bellhousings on the 10 speed? hmmm
I'm most familiar with gm, and when they went to direct injection, literally nothing on the engines and transmissions is compatible with older generations. The new DI engines were built from scratch that happen to have the same discplacement. I'd imagine ford is doing something similar.
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no, what I meant is ford/gm designed the tranny together so I'm wondering if the main body of it will fit either make? thats all.
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Why cant they tell us the power increases....
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12:1? Yikes! Low margin of error on 91 octane.
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12:1? Yikes! Low margin of error on 91 octane.
What say you about mazda skyactiv 14:1 compression?
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I didn't realize they were pushing that high these days. That's pretty sweet. I'm guessing they have really good control on the timing?
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I'm curious how much stronger the new 6spd is compared to the current mt-82.

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I like the new headlights more than the old.
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I didn't realize they were pushing that high these days. That's pretty sweet. I'm guessing they have really good control on the timing?
yes, well now they essentially have "fuel timing"

you can't really do much with injector pulsing in port injection because it just gets sucked in when the intake valve is open. Being directly injected into the combustion chamber essentially allows you to inject whenever the **** you want. It virtually eliminates detonation, which in turn safely allows higher compression ratios.

one major downside is that you now don't have any fuel constantly spraying and cleaning the back of the intake valves. So carbon deposits build up from oil blowby in the pcv. In the aftermarket people use catch cans, which have their own downsides and are just a bandaid. The only real solution so far is to have both direct injection and port injection combo, just like this new mustang is supposed to have.
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More or less likely to crash into crowds of people while leaving car shows/meets?
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More or less likely to crash into crowds of people while leaving car shows/meets?
Definitely more, I suppose the last thing killer mustangs need is more torque
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yes, well now they essentially have "fuel timing"

you can't really do much with injector pulsing in port injection because it just gets sucked in when the intake valve is open. Being directly injected into the combustion chamber essentially allows you to inject whenever the **** you want. It virtually eliminates detonation, which in turn safely allows higher compression ratios.

one major downside is that you now don't have any fuel constantly spraying and cleaning the back of the intake valves. So carbon deposits build up from oil blowby in the pcv. In the aftermarket people use catch cans, which have their own downsides and are just a bandaid. The only real solution so far is to have both direct injection and port injection combo, just like this new mustang is supposed to have.
Blowby is already an enormous issue with the Coyote, this could end up a **** show.
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Blowby is already an enormous issue with the Coyote, this could end up a **** show.
oh wow didn't know that... carbon buildup?
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I didn't realize they were pushing that high these days. That's pretty sweet. I'm guessing they have really good control on the timing?
A SKYACTIV-G engine is pretty similar to any other engine. It has an aluminum block and cylinder head, with a pair of chain-driven overhead cams. There are four pistons, 16 valves (four per cylinder) and one platinum spark plug per cylinder with a coil-on-plug ignition *system. Nothing unusual here. However, the pistons are domed like a performance piston to raise compression, and have a small cup in the top similar to a diesel piston. The cup acts like a mini-combustion chamber and allows the flame front to spread quickly when fuel is injected directly into this recessed cup in the top of each piston. The cup allows faster combustion and shortens the time any unburned air/fuel mixture in the rest of the cylinder is exposed to high temperatures, thus reducing the risk of detonation.

These engines also use a continuously variable, dual sequential valve timing (S-VT) system to constantly vary the amount of valve overlap as well as the *timing of the intake and exhaust valves. This effectively reduces compression during the intake stroke, as well as pumping losses that would normally occur when the throttle is nearly closed at idle and under light load.

During the intake stroke, the throttle and intake valves are held open while the piston moves down the cylinder. But the intake valves donít close when the piston reaches bottom dead center and reverses direction. Rather, the intake valves *remain open for a brief period as the piston starts back up on its compression stroke. This forces *excess air back out of the cylinder and allows the engine to *behave as if it has a lower compression ratio than it actually does.
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2013/11/the-skys-the-limit-looking-into-mazdas-skyactiv-engine-technology/
Had to look this up too. Pretty impressive Mazda.
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How many gears can we fit in a transmission? Hmmmmmmmmm
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oh wow didn't know that... carbon buildup?
Not really because port injection, it literally takes 10 seconds to put a catch can on them though.
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Not feeling the front end, digging the rear. Performance specs sounds pretty choice.

Smart on the port injection. Don't be Audi haha.
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2019 Mustang: 39 gears, shifting every 1.1 seconds.
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2019 Mustang: 39 gears, shifting every 1.1 seconds.

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