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Old 05-21-2018, 10:33 AM
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I know this is the wrong forum to post but nothing has been answered in the 06-11 civic forum regarding the third gear issue , since March 2015.

I recently found a 2006 Si with 31,000 miles for sale. I test drove it and it does not grind or pop out of third gear.

My question is if it starts to grind third gear ,will the Honda dealer do the change of 3rd gears free of charge , since there was a TSB ? It is definitely out of warranty since it is a 2006.

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lol @ TSB

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Here you go: https://www.scribd.com/document/1577...-Honda-A08-020

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Any repair performed after warrantyexpiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration bythe District Parts and Service Manager or your ZoneOffice. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.

Run the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified, worked like a charm in my old 07 Si Sedan I had issues with, after that never a problem. I put it in the Mugen too, even though it was shifting fine.

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Old 05-21-2018, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by slowman View Post
Here you go: https://www.scribd.com/document/1577...-Honda-A08-020

Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warrantyexpiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration bythe District Parts and Service Manager or your ZoneOffice. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.

Run the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified, worked like a charm in my old 07 Si Sedan I had issues with, after that never a problem. I put it in the Mugen too, even though it was shifting fine.

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-10-4014-Friction-Synchromesh-Transmission/dp/B0026JK8FK/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526924384&sr= 1-1&keywords=ACDelco+10-4014&dpID=41oKLLo409L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=src h
In order to do run the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified , do they need to completely drain oil from tranny ?

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Just skip 3rd gear. Never ever under any circumstance shift into 3rd gear.
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Originally Posted by slowman View Post
Here you go: https://www.scribd.com/document/1577...-Honda-A08-020

Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warrantyexpiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration bythe District Parts and Service Manager or your ZoneOffice. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.

Run the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified, worked like a charm in my old 07 Si Sedan I had issues with, after that never a problem. I put it in the Mugen too, even though it was shifting fine.

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-10-40...70_&dpSrc=srch
I use Redline MTL and have not had any issues either
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Originally Posted by doggydog View Post
In order to do run the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified , do they need to completely drain oil from tranny ?

Thanks slowman
Yeah you just drain it and refill like doing an oil change.. It takes two bottles (like 1.8 quarts or whatever).
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I use Redline MTL and have not had any issues either
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Originally Posted by 90hatch94dsm View Post
lol @ TSB

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Can confirm, that while they might not use these exact words, this is Honda of America we're talking about here. They will laugh you out the door/off the phone if you expect them to fix **** they fucked up so bad there is a TSB, but not bad enough to cause a class action lawsuit (like the 98-03 v6 trannies).
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Just skip 3rd gear. Never ever under any circumstance shift into 3rd gear.
But who was 3rD gEaR VtEc doe!!!!!!



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Old 05-21-2018, 06:16 PM
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Can confirm, that while they might not use these exact words, this is Honda of America we're talking about here. They will laugh you out the door/off the phone if you expect them to fix **** they fucked up so bad there is a TSB, but not bad enough to cause a class action lawsuit (like the 98-03 v6 trannies).
Other than maybe Toyota taking responsibility for their Tacoma frames (safety issue), I cannot think of one company that would fix a car that's 12 years old, TSB or not (unless lawsuit).

How does OP know that 3rd gear hasn't already been fixed? Did he run the VIN?
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Here you go: https://www.scribd.com/document/1577...-Honda-A08-020

Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warrantyexpiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration bythe District Parts and Service Manager or your ZoneOffice. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.

Run the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified, worked like a charm in my old 07 Si Sedan I had issues with, after that never a problem. I put it in the Mugen too, even though it was shifting fine.

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-10-40...70_&dpSrc=srch
What was your car doing?
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Other than maybe Toyota taking responsibility for their Tacoma frames (safety issue), I cannot think of one company that would fix a car that's 12 years old, TSB or not (unless lawsuit).

How does OP know that 3rd gear hasn't already been fixed? Did he run the VIN?
There is something called a "goodwill repair," and no, Honda will not make one, even on a car thats 3 years old/40k miles, even when the service writer you talk to had the exact same issue on the exact same personally owned car, and is familiar with the TSB; ask me how I know.
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What was your car doing?
the occasional lock out/grind when it was cold in 2nd and 3rd gear. after the trans fluid swap to the linked gm mtf above, it all went away for the duration of my ownership (50,000 more miles after i changed the fluid, never one more trans issue).
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Honda told me to eat **** in 07' about this, I assume they would do the same to you. GM synchromesh and go about your business.
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Like Tokyosmash said, go with GM. Sell that junkball and get a Camaro SS. Bam, shifting issue gone.
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:23 AM
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I seem to remember your Camaro being an auto, Kenny
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OP the transmission grinding issue is a combination of user error and subpar synchro/ clutch master cylinder design

if it is not grinding currently, the likelihood of it grinding isnt that big especially if you are going to keep it mostly stock

as a precaution, i would change the MTF with Honda MTF (never needed to use other brands in my experience)

if it starts getting notchy down the road, replace the clutch master with the update oem clutch master that they've released

a car with 30k miles shouldnt have these issues
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OP the transmission grinding issue is a combination of user error and subpar synchro/ clutch master cylinder design

if it is not grinding currently, the likelihood of it grinding isnt that big especially if you are going to keep it mostly stock

as a precaution, i would change the MTF with Honda MTF (never needed to use other brands in my experience)

if it starts getting notchy down the road, replace the clutch master with the update oem clutch master that they've released

a car with 30k miles shouldnt have these issues
They were having these issues brand new lol. This isn't your typical trashed synchro we're talking about.
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the 09-11 had updated synchros and then later a new part number for the clutch master cylinder was released. All i know is the grinding was a lot less prevalent on 09-'11s

there were some cases where honda replaced the transmissions on the 06-08s but not sure how true that was
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I seem to remember your Camaro being an auto, Kenny
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I seem to remember your Camaro being an auto, Kenny
How many shifting issues did it have? Zero.

I have a 2010 now and it's a manual.
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you should just sell it and get something practical....like a Dodge minivan or something like that. No clutch or manual transmission to worry about
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you should just sell it and get something practical....like a Chevrolet Camaro
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Redline mtf or Amsoil mtf Op.
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