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Old 06-12-2019, 10:01 AM
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Racists (or whatever you want to refer to them as) seem to really like these people. but not everyone who likes these people is racist.
I dont see why honestly.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:03 AM
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His comments on Arabs and Muslims will have the effect of legitimizing already-bigoted perspectives.

"Look at this smart Jewish guy, if he is saying this about Muslims then surely I must have been right to suspect them"

You want to make it very simple and cut-and-dried, like if Shapiro isn't specifically calling for ethnic cleansing then he bears no responsibility for what people do when citing his work.

Oh wait, he did call for ethnic cleansing ("Transfer is not a dirty word", look it up). Minor details.
You really believe that in your heart that is what he intended? And as a teenager no less? Or is it just easy cannon fodder?
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:05 AM
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Does Palestine want the destruction of Israel yes or no?

The wording of that is awful on his part though, so I definitely see the backlash
On the first point--arguably yes, but the conversation is about Ben and how his work can be (and is) used to justify extremism.

Yes the wording is bad and he knew it. This is an extremely intelligent and articulate person we're talking about so I don't buy that he just made a mistake.

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I dont see why honestly.
Don't see why what?
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:11 AM
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Why someone like Joe Rogan or Dave Rubin or even Ben (even considering his anti-Palestinian rhetoric) are considered gateways to racism / or support racist ideas, outside of its a tactic to silence the debate and de-platform.
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Does this mean he's killing himself if he wins?

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Does Palestine want the destruction of Israel yes or no?

The wording of that is awful on his part though, so I definitely see the backlash
any reasonable person would be talking about finding a solution, not genocide
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any reasonable person would be talking about finding a solution, not genocide
Moving the groups away from each other = genocide?
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I guess I mistook what he meant by "decapitate the population"
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:19 AM
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I guess I mistook what he meant by "decapitate the population"
The entire article is about moving groups away from each other, but your take away is from a single sentence with poor syntax? The entire body of the article is literally explaining how this is not a call for genocide...
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Why do you think it’s poor syntax and not intentional?
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:29 AM
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Why do you think it’s poor syntax and not intentional?
There are no gas chambers here. It's not genocide; it's transfer. It's not Hitler; it's Churchill.

The “Transfer” Column: At the top of this list is a column I wrote when I was 19 years old regarding the Israeli/Palestinian situation. That column called for transfer of Palestinian Arabs from Judea and Samaria and Israel proper. That idea was stupid and immoral. I have myself called that idea “inhumane and impractical,” as well as a “moral and philosophical error.” It is also worth noting that the same people who decried the transfer column as genocidal and ethnic cleansing were very much in favor of forcing every single Jew out of the Gaza Strip in 2006, and seem fine with complete destruction of Israeli settlements in favor of a Judenrein Palestinian state.


So hes even reflected back on it and denounced it.
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Does this mean he's killing himself if he wins?

I don't get it?
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That’s fine with me, as long as everyone gets that same pass
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RELEASE THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!!!


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Thatís fine with me, as long as everyone gets that same pass
I will grant anyone that opportunity if it seems genuine.


Ben isn't the hill I want to die on, but this is a recurring theme and seems like its beginning to target more benign personalities (Rubin, even Sam Harris for gods sake lol).
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Well when Shapiro is posting videos about how Muslims are coming for western civilization you have to wonder about the way he consistently chooses his words
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:27 AM
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Ted Cruz and AOC is the team I didn't know I wanted.

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1138840867777712128
I wonder what the catch is, because with Ted Cruz there is always a catch. Does he want to make some forms of birth control available over the counter, and then exempt all health insurance companies from having to cover any of the cost? Perhaps he wants to reclassify aspirin as a form of birth control, i.e. a woman can hold an aspirin between her knees to prevent pregnancy? Gotta be a catch somewhere.
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Old 06-12-2019, 12:20 PM
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lol

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Old 06-12-2019, 12:26 PM
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lollin at the stifled snickering in the back.
"locker room talk fine, but hur dur women can't make sex joke, that's innapropriate!" GTFO.

Sorta unrelated, but worth watching:
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yeah read he flipped the **** out
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she should have doubled down on it instead lol
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Jon Stewart has my respect for that.
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