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Stopsign32v 02-27-2018 05:56 AM

Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I'm curious if it would be worth or even possible to wrap a tubular manifold such as this one.

http://www.ipgparts.com/store/images...fold-01-01.jpg

AZ_CIVIC 02-27-2018 06:04 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
Get it heat coated.

b20sedan 02-27-2018 06:43 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
AZ_CIVIC who do you use for thermal coatings? I used to use Jet Hot till they closed their AZ location.

TheShodan 02-27-2018 07:05 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I like doing both. Wrapping & Coating. But if you had to pick one, I'd High Heat Cerakote first.

LightningTeg 02-27-2018 07:07 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I think you'd be better off making a heat shield you could bolt to it or around it. Thats my plan. Wrapping is a pain in the arse.

AZ_CIVIC 02-27-2018 07:20 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by b20sedan (Post 51568378)
AZ_CIVIC who do you use for thermal coatings? I used to use Jet Hot till they closed their AZ location.

I usually give my parts to Joe to get coated but I am pretty sure it's Full Race that does the coating. To me the heat coating is very good stuff, I've tried the wraps in the past and am just not a fan of the stuff.

TheShodan 02-27-2018 08:03 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC (Post 51568443)
I usually give my parts to Joe to get coated but I am pretty sure it's Full Race that does the coating. To me the heat coating is very good stuff, I've tried the wraps in the past and am just not a fan of the stuff.

Full-Race sends those off, trying to remember where, but I know it's not in-house.

Stopsign32v 02-27-2018 08:26 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I'm worried about coating and heating could cause cracking issues at the welds.

Not sure if that worry is warranted or not.

Autoworks 02-27-2018 08:31 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
The ceramic coating itself will not cause a weld to crack.

TheShodan 02-27-2018 09:37 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v (Post 51568542)
I'm worried about coating and heating could cause cracking issues at the welds.

Not sure if that worry is warranted or not.

Those do not cause the welds to crack at all. In fact, when it's done, the manifold is slowly preheated to over 700*F before the coating is even applied.

Stopsign32v 02-27-2018 10:36 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I wonder who does the best thermal coating? I did some massive research into it several years ago and came up with a company that did it but their coating was white of all things. I cannot remember who it was to save my life though.

AZ_CIVIC 02-27-2018 11:05 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by TheShodan (Post 51568511)
Full-Race sends those off, trying to remember where, but I know it's not in-house.

I just confirmed they do it in house now but you were right they used to send it out.

AZ_CIVIC 02-27-2018 11:06 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v (Post 51568790)
I wonder who does the best thermal coating? I did some massive research into it several years ago and came up with a company that did it but their coating was white of all things. I cannot remember who it was to save my life though.

I think you are talking about swine tech.

Stopsign32v 02-27-2018 12:20 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC (Post 51568842)
I think you are talking about swine tech.

YES!!!!!!!

http://swaintech.com/race-coatings/r...aust-coatings/

the_unknown 02-27-2018 01:42 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
LOL swine tech... oink oink...

Swaintech is renowned for their coatings, and anyone who knows anything wouldnt mind the white color knowing they have the best thermal coating on the market. If you want that JDm BlanG BlANg NeO CHRoME hotness then you need to find a company without racing pedigree...

justYncredible 02-27-2018 07:24 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
i have a guy in town i took mine to. this is a synapse turbo manifold i had made a while back had it treated locally. synapse and the person who heat treated my mainfold both agreed that using heat wrap was a no no. although synapse turbo isnt around, they wouldnt warrant the manifold if it was heat wrapped.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...82f6a02598.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...1a8ddbb671.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...7f01b6de59.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...72e51aabdf.jpg

liam821 03-02-2018 01:47 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I heat-wrapped mine. It wasn't hard just take your time.

GoldieWang 03-10-2018 04:08 AM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I used the titanium lava rock wrap that DEI makes. Its a lil bit expensive compared to regular ceramic wrap but it doesn't have to be wetted when applied and it looks great if you take your time. I can drive the car down the highway, pull over and lay my hand on the manifold briefly. I am sure that's not the case during a hard pull but, it keeps the engine bay very cool for a turbo car. I wrapped my manifold, had my turbine housing coated along with a turbo blanket, and wrapped my downpipe along with the wastegate dump.

MyAcc0rd 03-12-2018 02:08 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 
I've used heat wrap, it worked OK. Today I'd probably just coat it though. If you do wrap it, watch out for those stainless steel ties as they are sharp as SHIT and they will cut you gooood.

Chance EG 03-12-2018 03:39 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by MyAcc0rd (Post 51578903)
I've used heat wrap, it worked OK. Today I'd probably just coat it though. If you do wrap it, watch out for those stainless steel ties as they are sharp as SHIT and they will cut you gooood.

First you cut yourself on one of the steel ties, then you get fiberglass shards all over your hands from the wrap. Then you get sweat mixed in with all that goodness while you work in your garage in 102 degree weather.

I love wrapping headers :thumbup:

Stopsign32v 03-12-2018 03:43 PM

Re: Worth wrapping a tubular log manifold?
 

Originally Posted by Chance EG (Post 51578970)
First you cut yourself on one of the steel ties, then you get fiberglass shards all over your hands from the wrap. Then you get sweat mixed in with all that goodness while you work in your garage in 102 degree weather.

I love wrapping headers :thumbup:

Gotta love not knowing you have fiberglass in your hand until you get it at that just right angle afterwards.


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