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Default Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

I have a 96 integra boosted and running the AEM EMS 30-6060 series 2 box. I would like to know If I can use the MSD 6AL ignition box wired up to my stock distributor. Will the EMS still be able to controll the ignition timing?

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Old 08-14-2011, 08:16 PM
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i would stay away from MSD products. this is just from my own experience,and few other friends who has boosted hondas. when we had the msd stuff on the cars things never ran right. soon as we went back to OEM problems gone.
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Well on my last dyno tune @ 20psi + water meth injection 8900 rpm the factory ignition was starting to break up. So I'm looking for something a little more reliable up there. I have a brand new MSD 6AL just sitting there on my shelf...........
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how much power? U should be good to 500+ on stock ignition. What spark plugs? And gap? Get coilpacks or m&w ignition
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

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how much power? U should be good to 500+ on stock ignition. What spark plugs? And gap? Get coilpacks or m&w ignition
400whp plugs NGK Iridium .022 gap
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yeah something ain't right,,,you should have no problems with 400hp n stock ignition,
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Originally Posted by Jimmynitro
yeah something ain't right,,,you should have no problems with 400hp n stock ignition,
yeah I'm hoping maybe replacing the distributor with a brand new one will fix that problem.
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oem should be able to handle 500+whp. im making over 500 with oem stuff with out any problems. but if you have a brand new msd sitting there collecting dust,theres no harm trying i guess. G/L
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

water/meth puts more stress on it. it will work, if its there, give it a shot.
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

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water/meth puts more stress on it. it will work, if its there, give it a shot.
I just talked to my tuner and He said Yes the MSD will help with the Water/Meth injection in the higher RPM range. It will keep from blowing out. I'm going to wire it to control the OEM coil pack, So It will look like stock. You guys will think I'm crazy but, I don't like the flashy red look of the box so.........I did this!
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

what are you using to tune? tried replacing the coil on the factory dizzy?
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

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what are you using to tune? tried replacing the coil on the factory dizzy?
I'm running the AEM Engine Management System. never tried replacing the OE coil. I just bought a new OEM Distributor. Have not installed it as of yet.
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

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I'm running the AEM Engine Management System. never tried replacing the OE coil. I just bought a new OEM Distributor. Have not installed it as of yet.
does the AEM engine management allow you to adjust dwell settings for the ignition?
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

I'm not sure. Why do you ask?
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yeah true msd will help. The only reason people say not to use them is because they can burn out the igniter in the dizZy sometimes. Happen to me b4. So I pulled off the msd, n I'm making 490/375 on a built Ls, stock ignition, but give the msd a try,,
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDad
I'm not sure. Why do you ask?
If its not setup properly that could be the source of your problem, i find it highly unlikely that the stock dizzy is crapping out on you at only 400hp. More power to you for using the MSD setup but i never liked the risk it places on burning out the ICM. The aem engine management as far as i know is setup from scratch right? where as programs like neptune, and ectune would have dwell timing already preset for the specific car/map, correct?
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

i know this probably doesnt help much but this is what my dwell settings look like in ectune

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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

also btw, whats your mixture of methanol/water look like, and how much are you spraying?
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

Originally Posted by Spawne32
also btw, whats your mixture of methanol/water look like, and how much are you spraying?
Im using a 50/50 mix. it starts to come on @ 5psi and full @ 25psi
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

The dwell settings should be fine i'd imagine. His tuner would of most likely used one of his basemaps with the dwell settings already optimised.

I like what you've done to that MSD box CaliforniaDad. I'm not a fan of the red myself.
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Thank you, I like the wrinkle black look as you can tell.
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

Well I installed a new distributor, and seems to run a tiny bit smoother, Funny thing is I think the engine or exhaust note sounds a little different as well. Sounds better. Might be all in my head...lol
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

better more efficient burn will do that, so im not surprised
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Default Re: Will the MSD 6AL box work with the EMS 30-6060 in boosted integra

Originally Posted by Spawne32
better more efficient burn will do that, so im not surprised
Oh really...huh I guess that makes sence!!
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaDad
Oh really...huh I guess that makes sence!!
when i made minor alterations to the dwell settings on ectune per the recommendations of my tuner, it leaned up the car quite a bit, because the burn was that much more efficient.


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