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zexifiedlude Aug 26, 2006 12:25 AM

wideband
 
i am currently in need of a good wideband... i have been thinking about the Zeitronix wideband but its a bit on the expensive side.. i was thinking about it and i dont really need any sort of display cause i can just hook it up to my carputer and it will display everything, so what kind of wideband can i be looking at that doesnt come with a display but is accurate and wont break down on me? thanks

xenocron Aug 26, 2006 03:50 AM

Re: wideband (zexifiedlude)
 
If you dont need a display, the Innovate LC-1 is the best bang for your buck https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/.../pb200_lc1.jpg

$199 retail, PM me for a better price https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

You can always add their gauge later too, if you decide you need one.

zexifiedlude Aug 26, 2006 06:37 AM

does the lc-1 connect via serial or usb to a pc? for logging?

lsintegra9 Aug 26, 2006 07:38 AM

it uses a serial cable but you can get a serial to usb adapter. thats what im useing and workds fine

ramennoodles Aug 26, 2006 09:19 AM

Re: wideband (zexifiedlude)
 
I never had any problems with the zeitronix. it's very easy to use. I also have an lc-1. I never got the output for the narrowband simulator to work right on the lc-1. I like the zeitronix better. and it's got a nice datalogger program

shortyz21 Aug 26, 2006 09:27 AM

Re: wideband (ramennoodles)
 
10 months going strong with my zeirtronix + display.

i like it

Mugencrxsir1 Aug 26, 2006 11:45 AM

Re: wideband (xenocron)
 
Innovative makes a wideband with display for only like $385 shipped. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

zexifiedlude Aug 26, 2006 11:52 AM

thats the thing thoe i dont need a display cause my carputer is going to be connected to the wideband

B18C Turbo Aug 26, 2006 12:44 PM

How can anyone compete with AEM's eugo wideband, sensor, cables, and gauge for $250 to your door, I love this thing

SpdFrk Aug 26, 2006 12:55 PM

Re: (B18C Turbo)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can anyone compete with AEM's eugo wideband, sensor, cables, and gauge for $250 to your door, I love this thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, i just got home from picking 1 up at my local shop that sell these things. Great buy https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

turbociviccoupe Aug 26, 2006 01:01 PM

Re: (SpdFrk)
 
Innovative https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

chrisgottigsr Aug 26, 2006 01:15 PM

Re: (B18C Turbo)
 
"How can anyone compete with AEM's eugo wideband, sensor, cables, and gauge for $250 to your door, I love this thing"

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

zexifiedlude Aug 26, 2006 01:46 PM

Re: (chrisgottigsr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisgottigsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"How can anyone compete with AEM's eugo wideband, sensor, cables, and gauge for $250 to your door, I love this thing"

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought u couldnt datalog of the aem?

Hondoctors Aug 26, 2006 02:02 PM

I'm using the PLX M-250 with gauge. Price was $350 shipped, and it datalogs with Hondata and Neptune. I like it...

93supercoupe Aug 26, 2006 02:15 PM

Re: (Hondoctors)
 
were can I fifnd just the sensor part, with the wires and connector?

civic_driver Aug 26, 2006 03:09 PM

i'm selling my Innovate LC-1 brand new. if i remember correctly my last price on the wideband is $150 shipped. shipped in US of course. if you don't need a display it's the best wideband out there for what you need. let me know if interested

here's some info: http://www.innovatemotorsports...1.php

Whiteintegra Aug 26, 2006 03:11 PM

Hey, nobody has said anything about the plx m300 yet!!! thats a great wideband with display for 295shipped!!!!

USDM 4G VTEC Aug 26, 2006 03:22 PM

i got the zeitronix and i love it
most useful and cheap compared to others

93supercoupe Aug 26, 2006 03:28 PM

Re: (USDM 4G VTEC)
 
I need the actual sensor part, because mine got crushed when i wrecked one of my CRX's.

Its for the plx M300, just the actual 02 sensor with the wires coming out of it and that 6 prong plug(I think its 6)

SovXietday Aug 26, 2006 03:45 PM

Re: (zexifiedlude)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zexifiedlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats the thing thoe i dont need a display cause my carputer is going to be connected to the wideband</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm pretty sure that you can.

xenocron Aug 26, 2006 07:33 PM

Re: (B18C Turbo)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can anyone compete with AEM's eugo wideband, sensor, cables, and gauge for $250 to your door, I love this thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here are my "excuses"

#1 - The AEM doesnt ship with the wires/connector to send a voltage to your ECU that you can datalog with...that connector/wire is extra...and its really meant to be used with their EMS

#2 - Similar to #1, the AEM wideband output is NON-linear, which makes datalogging with anything except the AEM EMS much more difficult (propriety at its best)

#3 - Along the lines of #2, the YUGO uses a standard BOSCH 5-wire O2, however the bastards changed the plug on it so when your sensor goes bad...you can only buy it from them (even better at propriety than we thought!)

Innovate, PLX & Techedge all use a standard Bosch 5-wire sensor with the standard plug...can easily be picked up at any local VW parts dealer or online for fairly cheap.

They all use a LINEAR voltage output, which makes inputting that signal into an ECU much easier.

I like the Innovate units because I know they are accurate, they allow for frequent calibrations and as the sensor ages...they account for that in the calibration which keeps them accurate throughout the life of the sensor...instead of only when its new.

They are much more versatile too...serial connection allows you to daisy chain a bunch of them together if you wish...there are a lot of applications this would be good for...not necessarily a street tuned Honda though.

pgmatt Aug 26, 2006 09:09 PM

Re: (xenocron)
 
Im rocking a Innovate LM1 and I love it.Huge support,accurate and has the capablities to expand it later on for all kinds of applications.The built in data logging is great too if you dont have a laptop. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif I got it from Xenecron as he is the man for ecu goods https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

rudebwoy Aug 27, 2006 12:05 AM

zeitronix is the best.
wideband
egt
boost gauge/user input
map display/user input
tps display/user input
all in one unit, easy to install.
I havent seen another wideband to match or beat it, plus the price is the best.

Dee Aug 27, 2006 12:15 AM

Re: (rudebwoy)
 
I am a big fan of the Techedge DIY kits https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif. I'm currently running a Techedge 1.5 with an L1H1 sensor but I am planning to upgrade to a 2B0 with an LSU sensor when I start working on my beater again.

spinney Aug 27, 2006 06:34 AM

Re: wideband (zexifiedlude)
 
FJO has a good wideband, priced alittle higher, but pretty much bullet proof, I have heard alot of good about them and have one ordered.


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