Wich T3/T04 to choose for my goals on a B16
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Wich T3/T04 to choose for my goals on a B16
Well my goals are concentrating on spool, since the motor will only have thicker head gasket and ARP bolts, i want a turbo that could make 350-maybe 400WHP, but the biggest concern is that i want to have boost at 4k rpm. I'll be using a manifold similar to spoolins quick4, so a short tubular mani.
Wich t3/T04 should i get the garret ones? Or do i want these https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1828097 they have a good price, but i see no difference between geting a garret or that one.
So help me out with the choice.
Wich t3/T04 should i get the garret ones? Or do i want these https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1828097 they have a good price, but i see no difference between geting a garret or that one.
So help me out with the choice.
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that turbo will make into the 400hp range, but i doubt it will be happy in doing so...if you are looking for more power in the future, just go with a T3/T04E 57trim .63 ar. You'll lose a little spool, but you'll gain the top end
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I agree with the T3/T04E 50 trim BUT would do the .63 A/R. I had an old DRAG 3 kit on my stock B16A motor back in 2000, it came with a T3/T04B S trim and .63 A/R Stage 1 turbine wheel it maxed out at 370whp 21psi, the turbo was small as **** . The T3/T04E we posted above will work great, spool pretty well and make the power.
You could go with a GT28RS or a GT30R but then price is getting much more expensive than a T3/T04E turbo. A 57 trim may work also, I have one for sale $550 shipped if interested
You could go with a GT28RS or a GT30R but then price is getting much more expensive than a T3/T04E turbo. A 57 trim may work also, I have one for sale $550 shipped if interested
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Re: (Boostfed.com)
So you say i should go for a 50 trim .63A/R? I now nothing on wich turbo is "mached" right, but i was told for instance that the gt2871R is kind of mismatched. With this in mind wich is better for the 50trim, .63 or .48 ?
You're also saying you had a t3/t04b S trim, how does that make it different from what i'm looking into?
You're also saying you had a t3/t04b S trim, how does that make it different from what i'm looking into?
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the T3/T04E 50 trim .63 ar would probably be a better choice on a B16 since it revs to 8k......the .48 would spool faster, but probably not work as well up top....
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i think gt2871 would work perfect. high 300's with excellent spool characteristics. If you want to save some $ go with the 50 trim. That turbo should be efficient until ~350hp.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the T3/T04E 50 trim .63 ar would probably be a better choice on a B16 since it revs to 8k......the .48 would spool faster, but probably not work as well up top....</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (snowbunny)
Since i'm the one asking questions because i don't know stuff.
How does the B in the T04b make the turbo perform different? I think that the trims are too big, aren't they? I only want in the
350- max 400WHP range.
How does the B in the T04b make the turbo perform different? I think that the trims are too big, aren't they? I only want in the
350- max 400WHP range.
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Re: (wicked2night)
As stated earlier, a .48 does not properly support the powerband of a b16. I would only go w/a .63 or a .82BB.
I have a t3/t4e 57 trim and love it w/an .63 exhaust.
Good turbo/price/power.
Look @ sig for more info.
I have a t3/t4e 57 trim and love it w/an .63 exhaust.
Good turbo/price/power.
Look @ sig for more info.
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And now the most important question... when do you see full boost? at what boost levels? You still have 1600 displacment, right? What is your compression like?
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Re: (wicked2night)
here is my 9:1 compression b16 with a 50trim .48 A/R..low boost obviously...but you can kind of see where my torque peak etc. is....for as much power as you want i'd go with a .63 or a .82 ball bearing.
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Re: (StylishDOHC)
Thanks, a dyno sheet is always nice!
I'm just wondering why you didn't rev the motor to 8500rpm?
Isn't the .82BB in the $1000 range? I'm not spending that on a turbo, well not now.
It would be great if someone had dynos of the 50 trim .63A/R or something from the 57 trim.
I'm just wondering why you didn't rev the motor to 8500rpm?
Isn't the .82BB in the $1000 range? I'm not spending that on a turbo, well not now.
It would be great if someone had dynos of the 50 trim .63A/R or something from the 57 trim.
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Re: (ExVtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As stated earlier, a .48 does not properly support the powerband of a b16. I would only go w/a .63 or a .82BB.
I have a t3/t4e 57 trim and love it w/an .63 exhaust.
Good turbo/price/power.
Look @ sig for more info.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
As stated, graphs/movies/etc and ALL info is in my sig...
I have a t3/t4e 57 trim and love it w/an .63 exhaust.
Good turbo/price/power.
Look @ sig for more info.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
As stated, graphs/movies/etc and ALL info is in my sig...
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Re: (ExVtec)
can you run those injectors without injector clips because you have the resistor box? It's not making sense to me, since i was told that if i get the saturated 780s i'll need injector clips because my car is obd2a but will be converted to obd1. So do you have the clips?
I'm looking for a dyno on low boost. How much pressure do i need on a stock motor with a 9:1 compression to make something like 230WHP on a 50trim .63A/R?
I'm looking for a dyno on low boost. How much pressure do i need on a stock motor with a 9:1 compression to make something like 230WHP on a 50trim .63A/R?
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all 92-up injectors (obd1 or obd2) will be high resistance and wont need resistor boxes... if you use peak and hold, you will need a resistor box... if you use saturated, you wont...
injector clips are totally different then needing a resistor box, the clips just make sure you can actually clip on to the injectors, thats it.. its got nothin to do with their resistance..
oh, and i had a 60 trim garrett t304e, gets full boost around 4500, and its capable of 400
injector clips are totally different then needing a resistor box, the clips just make sure you can actually clip on to the injectors, thats it.. its got nothin to do with their resistance..
oh, and i had a 60 trim garrett t304e, gets full boost around 4500, and its capable of 400
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with the T3/T04E 50 trim BUT would do the .63 A/R. I had an old DRAG 3 kit on my stock B16A motor back in 2000, it came with a T3/T04B S trim and .63 A/R Stage 1 turbine wheel it maxed out at 370whp 21psi, the turbo was small as **** . The T3/T04E we posted above will work great, spool pretty well and make the power.
You could go with a GT28RS or a GT30R but then price is getting much more expensive than a T3/T04E turbo. A 57 trim may work also, I have one for sale $550 shipped if interested </TD></TR></TABLE>
This I would agree with. Though on another Civic SI B16A, I actually used the GT2871R. The car needed to stay internally-gated so it was a nice choice.
You could go with a GT28RS or a GT30R but then price is getting much more expensive than a T3/T04E turbo. A 57 trim may work also, I have one for sale $550 shipped if interested </TD></TR></TABLE>
This I would agree with. Though on another Civic SI B16A, I actually used the GT2871R. The car needed to stay internally-gated so it was a nice choice.