ted

Why are B18B motors good for booost???

Muckman

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low compression.

adseguy

ummmmmm....yeah

I bet you heard this somewhere

The saying goes that the lower compression on the b18b is 9.2:1 compared to the b18c (GS-R) at 10:1 is better to boost on. This isn't the case though.

The lower compression allows the tunner more flexibility in the tune. High compression is easier to detonate with. If you don't know what detonation (pinging) is.......SEARCH! the b18b will hold better on a crappier tune or lesser octane gas and so on.

The b18c and even the b18c5 (type R) are totally boostable you just have to make sure the tune is good to make your motor last

hondaguyef

Just as adseguy stated, The B18a/b's are much easier to tune and leave much more room for error than the b16,b18c1 or c5. They make excellent torque and have an excellent power band(if correct turbo is selected) IMO. I loved mine and I may end up w/ another LS-t

Phil

turboEGhatch

LS in a junkyard: 650 bucks
GSR in a junkyard: 2800 bucks

2800 - 650 = 2150

2150 takes care of most of a good turbo setup. This is going by how much it would have costed me to pull each motor/ecu, etc from the car at a local junkyard. In a mild forced induction application you can make up the difference between an LS and a GSR by just adding in a bit more boost.

12 oz.

cheap and effective

NVturbo

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PLAIN AND SIMPLE.....ALL the POWER...half the price on virtually everything. NO VTEC solenoids to worry about, lower chances of detonation, cheaper prices on camshafts, etc. I love my LS-t. I wouldn't trade it for a VTEC motor, any day!!! Oh yeah, one more thing. Trying driving a GSR swap hybrid w/o VTEC wired-up and you will know how S L O W they can be without the infamous "Variable Timing and Electronic Lift Control"!!!

hondaguyef

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PLAIN AND SIMPLE.....ALL the POWER...half the price on virtually everything. NO VTEC solenoids to worry about, lower chances of detonation, cheaper prices on camshafts, etc. I love my LS-t. I wouldn't trade it for a VTEC motor, any day!!! Oh yeah, one more thing. Trying driving a GSR swap hybrid w/o VTEC wired-up and you will know how S L O W they can be without the infamous "Variable Timing and Electronic Lift Control"!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I feel that 100%!!!!!! I will probaly end up w/ another LS-T . I just sold mine and I miss it dearly already .

Phil

mildly.interesting

I love my LS-T

ted

thanks alot... if i go ls than and boost it what trany should i use the one it comes with or a gsr trany ?????

NVturbo

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Use the one it came with...or you can get a GSR unit with a LS final drive. That is a nice tranny setup by the way.

turboEGhatch

An LS trans is perfectly fine for an LS-T setup. When/If you move into the realm of VTEC, or a ported head and some big cams that let you turn 8000+ RPM's is when I would start looking into a tighter geared transmission. On my GF's car fourth rings out to about 120 on street tires and fifth goes to about 160, with an LS trans.

dunkd

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theres something to worry about with a vtec solenoid?

lower chances of detonation? get it tuned and you are fine.

cheaper prices on camshafts, etc.? what exactly is cheaper?


Both LS and GSR motors are capable of making 300whp in stock form w/o a problem if done CORRECT. if you are just slapping on a turbo kit and driving then yes you will be safer with a LS motor... but if u have your engine tuned properly with a GSR you are fine.

r_Senik

ls-t is fun to drive...my cousin have a ls-t in his crx...the car is not running 100% but he did a 14.3 spinning. he have no money to tune it...but its still goin strong.

drift2004

they suck dont buy it!

drift2004

naw im just messing

92-LS-Civic

I am currently underconstruction on my 92 civic with LS. I am looking around and i am trying to figure out what be the best turbo for my car. I know it all depends on what i am going to do with it i just want to know what you are running and what you are running PSI and 1/4 mile time. cant wait to be LS-T. its going to be fun!

NVturbo

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cheaper prices on camshafts, etc.? what exactly is cheaper?

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Crower camshafts LS $359/pr --- VTEC $600/pr ....you do the math!!

ted

y u giving me prices on camshafts do they need replaced alot or some thing?

Calvinator

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He's just stating that the no vtec cam shafts are a lot cheaper than the vtec ones. He is just giving another good point about the b18b.


Modified by xtremeazian at 10:56 AM 1/3/2005

ted

OK THANKS...

Adriano

Since when do you need to swap cams to make power? Most people make 550-600 on stock gsr cam, I made 450hp on 21lbs of boost, STOCK head. Stop hating the vtec motors, they are superior to the non-vtec (nothing wrong with them).

Adriano

Adriano

One more thing, since when do the vtec solenoid go bad? They usually outlast the motor. What kind of ediot will drive a vtec motor without the vtec hooked-up, it's only a few wires to hook up. All off you "vtec-hater" are mad cuz you can't make the power we make on v-tec motors on the same boost level. I will challenge any "non-vtec" motor to race again'st my vtec motor. Let's see who's faster....

Adriano

Boostage

I agree with Brryder. nvturbo if u like ls motors thats fine, but dont try to disrespect b18c's by talking about vtec saying is its only saving grace the b18c's have. they are the most powerful and fastest honda 4 cylinders, not ls, and not ls/vtecs this is the quickest way to turn a good thread to ****.

and talking about cost as a factor is irrelevant because people who swap GSR's motors spend the extra for a reason, people who swap c5 motors also do it for a reason people with unlimited budgets go b18c over LS for a reason and on top of it all the question was why are ls motors good for boost, not which is cheaper or better.

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

low compression and torque area makes the LS nice for reliable street power, but a gsr done right can always be better.