yellowturbo

So here is my story about all my clutch I had on my D16Z6 turbo.

at 240 whp : OEM disc with a double pressure plate. This setup was the one that I prefered the most... engagement was really smooth and was holding fine... the clutch never slept BUT the disc was over after like 10 month... I can live with this...

at 287 whp: when I got my new turbo I installed a new 3 pucks un-sprung disc with the same double pressure plate... It was a bitch to drive I really disliked this setup... but I tryed to keep it.

Went to the dyno to tune with racing fuel... the disc started to slip at around 310 whp... the problem was probably the pressure plate... So I ordered a Action 2ms. Took like 1 month to get it... oh well thats another story.

at 333 whp: Still on the Action 2ms ( 6 puck with spring ) and I really dont like the feeling of this clutch...

So ... I think the best choice would be, for me who drive the car most of the time on the street ( but I love to go at the track sometimes ), a kevlar disc for his smooth engagement ( thats what I heard )

Now my questions are... who know if it will hold up over 300 whp ?? can I go to the track with this kind of disc ?? and if someone use one or tryed one... could you tell me how it was please ! I dont know why but kevlar disc are not really used by what I saw...

Thanks

Mat

civickiller

im curious to know what clutch the 300whp guys are using

b16hybridsol

i have a stage 3 clutch masters in my h22 turbo teg and its held up fine, i think the pressure plate is the real issue when getting into higher hp when you are running a stage 3 or higher clutch. i say you'll be fine with the kevlar disc, but i'm not sureup to what hp, i might try mine after the rebuild (550ish whp)

FOrSfEd

RPS stage three clutch works wonders, holds the power, and is very smooth as far as engagement goes.

yellowturbo

do RPS clutch have a website ??

yellowturbo

so who know how much torque the 2KS could hold ???

95GSRTT

rps website is turboclutch.com I would talk to marty-t i think thats his name on HT. He has got some really good deals on RPS clutchs.

Finland

I have 100+ drag launches on my CM stage 3, and couldn't be happier with it..great engagement, and no fade at all yet

ATS*Mark

i just ordered the action 2md because my act is going to ****...i hope it holds my power.

Boltz

CM stage 4 here, hasnt taken much abuse but so far it holds all the power and I think its super easy to drive

yellowturbo

do you guys think that the segmented kevlar disk from CM could be a good choice for me ??

Thanks

http://www.clutchmasters.com/shop/

ELSpool

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boltz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CM stage 4 here, hasnt taken much abuse but so far it holds all the power and I think its super easy to drive</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just wore mine out. CM Stage 4 lasted 15,000km and about 20 passes at the track this year. Was very easy to drive and did hold well until now. I would have thought it would have lasted longer though.

yellowturbo

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I just wore mine out. CM Stage 4 lasted 15,000km and about 20 passes at the track this year. Was very easy to drive and did hold well until now. I would have thought it would have lasted longer though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why im maybe looking for a segmented kevlar disk... really smooth engagement a longer life too... but I need more opinions about it on ...

drumking15

i used to run the same kevlar disc...its great for the street but i was just sotck w/ a few upgrades....it tends to slip when it gets hot...but it takes a lot...about 6 track runs to be exact...after that it took a while to cool down...but still grabbed easy...great for the street!

yellowturbo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i used to run the same kevlar disc...its great for the street but i was just sotck w/ a few upgrades....it tends to slip when it gets hot...but it takes a lot...about 6 track runs to be exact...after that it took a while to cool down...but still grabbed easy...great for the street!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks... yeah I heard tht they dont like the heat that much

I just emailed CM to really know if it would hold my race setup at 335whp ?? I begin to think that it wont...

salt

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I have a 2KD with a 1.8 with SC61 turbo about 10psi. running best time of 12.4 @ 119

I have had no slipping issues at all. I have had this clutch about 2 years, but only about 10k miles on it. I had the tranny out about 1000 miles ago and the clutch still looked brand new, as well as the pressureplate and flywheel. The only thing I was told about is to not do too many hot passes on it. I did 3 rounds in a row with no cool down in bracket racing and it was fine. I am going start street course racing next year, but that dosent seem as brutal, but we will see.

Civic TSI

Guys, keep it mind that this is for a D16 so whenever you say that it works and hooks well on your B or F doesn't matter.

I've been runnning a CM4 for more than 5 years now. It's kind of a bitch, but it hooks well. I've rebuild the disc 3 times, the first two were done very closely but I guess I had my flywheel properly surfaced the last time cuz it has been more than 3 years and it's still on the car. Agreed I don't drive the car a lot but still...

I might check for something else for next year, I might need something more "aggresive"

yellowturbo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic TSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Guys, keep it mind that this is for a D16 so whenever you say that it works and hooks well on your B or F doesn't matter.

I've been runnning a CM4 for more than 5 years now. It's kind of a bitch, but it hooks well. I've rebuild the disc 3 times, the first two were done very closely but I guess I had my flywheel properly surfaced the last time cuz it has been more than 3 years and it's still on the car. Agreed I don't drive the car a lot but still...

I might check for something else for next year, I might need something more "aggresive" </TD></TR></TABLE>

well I think that 300whp+ on a B, D, H X loll is all the same... the clutch is maybe not exactly the same but it give me a good idea....

Junglesnake

I have a friend with a Spec Stage 3 on his D and he really likes it, as the engagement is smooth and the pedal has an almost stock feel.

yellowturbo

how much whp his car have ??

Civic TSI

You might want to ask "How much Tq does he have" instead of whp

yellowturbo

yeah I didnt think about it but it gives me a good start.

whackassfawker

cm3 for me 345whp. 50+launches.10,000km

yellowturbo

thanks dude thats what Im looking for !

boostd hatch

I have had a RPS clutch in my car for 5 boosted years and it has finally let go, but it took 25 inch slicks to kill it, also it is great for daily driving very smooth engagment with quite a bit of holding power. I am right around 330 whp also, hope that helps.