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Old 11-26-2005, 07:21 AM
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I got white smoke coming out of the little filter on my valve cover.I've got a boosted ls motor.Right when I turn the car on smoke comes out at idle.It's not really that thick.When I lay into the gas when I'm driving and pull over I got oil under my hood and all over the area where the breather.Any help would be appreciated.
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mine did that 1 year ago and i had cracked ringlands.
Old 11-26-2005, 07:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G"UNIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mine did that 1 year ago and i had cracked ringlands. </TD></TR></TABLE>

same here...mine also smoked a lot out the tailpipe and he engine made a loud flappiung sound that would get faster as the engine reved up.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G"UNIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mine did that 1 year ago and i had cracked ringlands. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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it's not smoking out the exhaust only the breather
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ringlands for sure
Old 11-26-2005, 07:49 AM
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guess it's time for a rebuild
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That my friend is called BLOWBY. You have a ring issue.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigBlockH22atch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That my friend is called BLOWBY. You have a ring issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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helloooooooooo toasted rings/ringlands. mine did the same thing right before i blew off the lower radiator hose ony to discover a cracked sleeve.
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all cars have blow-by. I can tell you the severity depending upon how your pcv system is hooked up.

If you have it like stock - the breather box hooked up to the im, and you know the pcv valve is good, your engine is toast. If you don't have it hooked up or you pcv valve is not functioning, what your experiencing is normal.
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I've got a 98 ls motor,there's no breather box on it.The only thing different that I've done to the pcv system was put a filter on the port that's supposed to go to the intake arm.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stewie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all cars have blow-by. I can tell you the severity depending upon how your pcv system is hooked up.

If you have it like stock - the breather box hooked up to the im, and you know the pcv valve is good, your engine is toast. If you don't have it hooked up or you pcv valve is not functioning, what your experiencing is normal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsturbocivic4do &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've got a 98 ls motor,there's no breather box on it.The only thing different that I've done to the pcv system was put a filter on the port that's supposed to go to the intake arm.</TD></TR></TABLE>


then if you pcv valve is working (check it) your engine is toast. Most likely what others are saying - ringlands
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do a compression test as well as a leak down ..
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what does a ring land have to do with that smoke i dont understand ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does a ring land have to do with that smoke i dont understand ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Combustion gases getting past the broken ringland/toasted ring and into the crankcase and then making their way out of the breather... The alternate being oil getting past the rings into the combustion chamber and being burned, also a sign of shot rings.
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one other scenario is if you overfilled your oil this could happen..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheThiefTheKnife’NTheGun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do a compression test as well as a leak down .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree do this
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what about piston to wall clerance ?
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My engine did that. I had broken lands on 3 pistons.
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cracked ringlands from too much pcv pressure in boost.

stock pcv system + FI = BOOM
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You realize the valve breather releases the pressure right?
= no boom
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on the 98ls thats the vc is the only pcv port?

There is no pcv valve then?

sorry im not the best with all the diff honda/acura engines out there.

I know on my b17 there was a port on the valve cover, and a port on the block where the oil galleys are.
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no your right there is a PVC valve on the crank case but the valve cover shares the same pressure since they are connected by the oil galleys. And with a breather filter on the valve cover it will release excess pressure in the crankcase/valve cover.


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