whats more worth it, what would you do, pick one, etc.
10-26-2004, 09:34 PM
#1
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
whats more worth it, what would you do, pick one, etc.
ls + sleeves, rods, pistons & pieced together turbo kit
z6 + sleeves, rods, pistons & pieced together turbo kit
-both are about the same price... correct? (assuming i use the ls trans)
-goal is 250 daily driven hp, dead f-ing reliable.
z6 + sleeves, rods, pistons & pieced together turbo kit
-both are about the same price... correct? (assuming i use the ls trans)
-goal is 250 daily driven hp, dead f-ing reliable.
10-26-2004, 09:40 PM
#2
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: whats more worth it, what would you do, pick one, etc. (jbell)
If your going to sleeve a block, sleeve the b series so you can deck it, bore it, stroke it, add a vtec head... anything you ever want to do if you run into money/a want for more power that you do not see ahead of you.
10-26-2004, 09:48 PM
#3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI, USA
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: whats more worth it, what would you do, pick one, etc. (jbell)
i'd do the ls. but actually if it was really up to me id just daily boost the ls stock with a good tune. if u wanna be safe u could upgrade pistons and rods but the ls has pretty thick walls as it is. I dont see u needing sleeves for a reliable 250whp on that block.
10-27-2004, 05:23 AM
#5
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: whats more worth it, what would you do, pick one, etc. (Sp00n'd Supra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sp00n’d Supra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b seires has better/strong tranny</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was under the impression the z6 trans had better gearing than the ls.
i was under the impression the z6 trans had better gearing than the ls.
10-27-2004, 11:10 AM
#7
Risky Business
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Trackside with the smoking bee
Posts: 25,211
Likes: 0
Received 47 Likes
on
39 Posts
Re: (jbell)
LS is better geared...Z6 seems like it is better geared because it redlines higher, but the actual gear ratios are shorter in the LS.
Go for the LS
Go for the LS
Trending Topics
10-27-2004, 11:14 AM
#8
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: JDM ricer land, CA
Posts: 2,901
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: whats more worth it, what would you do, pick one, etc. (jbell)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was under the impression the z6 trans had better gearing than the ls. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i meant in general, all the options avaliable to you
i meant in general, all the options avaliable to you
10-27-2004, 12:20 PM
#9
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS is better geared...Z6 seems like it is better geared because it redlines higher, but the actual gear ratios are shorter in the LS.
Go for the LS </TD></TR></TABLE>
i thought it was the other way around. can anyone confirm this?
Go for the LS
</TD></TR></TABLE>i thought it was the other way around. can anyone confirm this?
10-27-2004, 12:21 PM
#10
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Watertown, CT, USA
Posts: 1,734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS is better geared...Z6 seems like it is better geared because it redlines higher, but the actual gear ratios are shorter in the LS.
Go for the LS </TD></TR></TABLE>
The LS is definitely the way to go but are you sure the LS gears are better? I'm going to challenge you to find the ratios for that.
Go for the LS
</TD></TR></TABLE>The LS is definitely the way to go but are you sure the LS gears are better? I'm going to challenge you to find the ratios for that.
10-27-2004, 12:24 PM
#12
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (D15B7turbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D15B7turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The LS is definitely the way to go but are you sure the LS gears are better? I'm going to challenge you to find the ratios for that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i looked around, no luck
i looked around, no luck
10-27-2004, 12:29 PM
#13
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (jbell)
If you want 250 solid reliable HP WTF are you sleeving it with pistons and rods? I ran 280 WHP on a B16 with stock pistons and rods, some ARP's, and hondata. Daily drove it for over a year with the turbo, and it saw lots of abuse with a vorturd blower before that.
10-27-2004, 12:39 PM
#14
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b16coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want 250 solid reliable HP WTF are you sleeving it with pistons and rods? I ran 280 WHP on a B16 with stock pistons and rods, some ARP's, and hondata. Daily drove it for over a year with the turbo, and it saw lots of abuse with a vorturd blower before that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
because the rods and pistons are like insurance. i dont need to sleeve. thats a step too far.
i'd like to turbo a b16 or gsr, but thats too expensive.
because the rods and pistons are like insurance. i dont need to sleeve. thats a step too far.
i'd like to turbo a b16 or gsr, but thats too expensive.
10-27-2004, 01:09 PM
#15
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (jbell)
ls
3.23
1.90
1.27
0.96
0.71
4.266
d16
3.250
1.900
1.250
0.909
0.750
4.250
looks like they are pretty much the same.
on 22.8inch tires, at 9500 rpms here are their speeds:
d16
46.9
80.3
122
167.8
203.3
ls
47
80
120
157
212
and to show you how bad that is,
itr
42.7
62.5
79.6
100.5
127.3
3.23
1.90
1.27
0.96
0.71
4.266
d16
3.250
1.900
1.250
0.909
0.750
4.250
looks like they are pretty much the same.
on 22.8inch tires, at 9500 rpms here are their speeds:
d16
46.9
80.3
122
167.8
203.3
ls
47
80
120
157
212
and to show you how bad that is,
itr
42.7
62.5
79.6
100.5
127.3
10-27-2004, 01:35 PM
#16
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: NYC bitchessss
Posts: 9,555
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (jbell)
Holy ****, 120 in 3rd gear.
In the orignal post you said you were going to sleeve it.
Then you said<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
because the rods and pistons are like insurance. i dont need to sleeve. thats a step too far.
i'd like to turbo a b16 or gsr, but thats too expensive. </TD></TR></TABLE>
??
In the orignal post you said you were going to sleeve it.
Then you said<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
because the rods and pistons are like insurance. i dont need to sleeve. thats a step too far.
i'd like to turbo a b16 or gsr, but thats too expensive. </TD></TR></TABLE>
??
10-27-2004, 01:36 PM
#17
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central, nj, usa
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (m R g S r)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Holy ****, 120 in 3rd gear.
In the orignal post you said you were going to sleeve it.
Then you said
??</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats at 9500 rmp.
i decided that sleeving it just too much, and not needed.
In the orignal post you said you were going to sleeve it.
Then you said
??</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats at 9500 rmp.
i decided that sleeving it just too much, and not needed.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Dc4turbo408
Acura Integra
20
01-30-2005 03:38 PM