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Old 09-10-2004, 05:53 PM
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i'm still learning about turbo's and what not, so i was wondering if anybody could fill me in about them!

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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (Bubba55)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bubba55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm still learning about turbo's and what not, so i was wondering if anybody could fill me in about them!

thanks in advance</TD></TR></TABLE>

big shaft 60-1 has a inducer of 2.524 and a major of 3.00
t61 has a inducer of 2.4 and a major of 3.540

about a 1/2 inch of major wheel diamter

the 60-1 will run out of its peak effiency at 1 bar of boost at 45lbs of air
where as the t61 will be at 2 bar of boost at 55lbs of air

not saying that either one wont make more boost that is just the limit of the peak effeincy
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (b18cls1)

thanks for the info! but is that it? will one turbo boost earlier/harder than the other?
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (Bubba55)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bubba55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the info! but is that it? will one turbo boost earlier/harder than the other?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the t61 will flow more air so it will ahve more hp potential and as far as spool goes that really depends on what turbine housing you are using
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (b18cls1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cls1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


the 60-1 will run out of its peak effiency at 1 bar of boost at 45lbs of air
where as the t61 will be at 2 bar of boost at 55lbs of air

not saying that either one wont make more boost that is just the limit of the peak effeincy
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Are you sure about that????!!



On race gas (the top numbers) was well beyond 1.0 bar. And BTW, this is from the little guy 60-1 hifi.
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (b18cls1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cls1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

big shaft 60-1 has a inducer of 2.524 and a major of 3.00
t61 has a inducer of 2.4 and a major of 3.540

about a 1/2 inch of major wheel diamter

the 60-1 will run out of its peak effiency at 1 bar of boost at 45lbs of air
where as the t61 will be at 2 bar of boost at 55lbs of air

not saying that either one wont make more boost that is just the limit of the peak effeincy
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Beat me to the punch!
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (rondigs)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rondigs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Are you sure about that????!!



On race gas (the top numbers) was well beyond 1.0 bar. And BTW, this is from the little guy 60-1 hifi. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i am im not saying that the 60-1 wont make more than 1 bar but will be out of its peak eff ring on it map *** seen below on its map see the middle ring, thats its peak eff. noew look at the pr ratio and 2.0 is 1 bar at the top of the center ring, so yes i am sure

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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (b18cls1)

Thanks guys for all the responses, it's help out a lot! To make it more confusing, is ther a big difference between a small and big shaft turbo? And as far as the T61, are there ones better than the other? Due to so many companies making a variation of that turbo such as Precision, Garrett, Innovative, and etc... Again, I can't really ask if which one is the "best" because it all depends on my setup. But why would one company be preferred over the other?
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (Bubba55)


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cls1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

big shaft 60-1 has a inducer of 2.524 and a major of 3.00
t61 has a inducer of 2.4 and a major of 3.540

about a 1/2 inch of major wheel diamter
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Also, keep in mind the 60-1 uses 7 blades on the compressor wheel where the t61 uses only 6.

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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61?

wow I never realized the 60-1 was out of peak so quickly.
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (twkdCD595)

bump for a knowledge fest
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (DIRep972)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRep972 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Also, keep in mind the 60-1 uses 7 blades on the compressor wheel where the t61 uses only 6. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i forgot to add that
thanks
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Default Re: what's the difference between a big shaft garrett 60-1 and T61? (twkdCD595)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twkdCD595 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow I never realized the 60-1 was out of peak so quickly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

from the archives, i started a discussion about the 60-1. most agreed that the turbonetics map is not the true 60-1 map.

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