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Old 02-18-2012, 05:04 PM
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Hi there hondas..im new to this site here so bare with me on my info i wanna know so here what im looking to buy...i got a stock gsr turbo and looking to buy a build a motor for my turbo kit that i have now..so here's what im looking to do...im looking to put my turbo kit on to this built lsv longblock that my guys has that was built from him...so lmk if this longblock be good for turbo or all motor...

here's my turbo kit:
custom topmount t3
precision sc6176 bb turbo aka gt35r
s300
680cc
ect..

what i wanna know is would i rather run this motor ALL motor or slap on my turbo kit on it...the reason i ask is this motor still in my buddy car running and it pull HARD already and if i should put my turbo kit on it or not...with that kind of compression on the set up...but my buddy says its built for turbo but im not sure...cuz from what i know and see is people run turbo on low compression build...so lmk what you guy think...thanks HT

Now for the motor im looking at: lsv84mm 2.0L

Block:
b18a (ls)
golden eagle sleeved block 84mm 2.0l
custom spec cp pistons (10.5.1)
eagle I beam rod
custom cometic head gasket
full balance & blue print
arp stud
micro crankshaft
All new oem honda oil pump n ect...

Head:
B16
resurfaced cylinder head
port n polish
5 angle competition vavle job
itr cam
skunk2 valtrain(titan retainers & spring keepers)
golden eagle dowel pin ferrera seal
cams degreed to block
supertech vales
and there more but cant remenber..but motor is full BUILT<

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That compression ratio is perfectly fine for boost.
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what are your power goals and plans for the car?
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I would say go turbo...you will likely get way more out of it... All motor on that combination of parts will get eaten by the influx of people coming out with K20 & K24 setups if the goal is to become competitive......especially since your friend said its built for turbo going in that direction is what it was intended for anyway.
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Would my turbo be too big for this set up if I was to go turbo on it..and as for HP im looking to get 450-500 whp or more if this motor will do.. and as for the motor I have all paperwork what all done to the motor..which he put about 9g into this motor in parts n labor..
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Would my turbo be too big for this set up if I was to go turbo on it..and as for HP im looking to get 450-500 whp or more if this motor will do.. and as for the motor I have all paperwork what all done to the motor..which he put about 9g into this motor in parts n labor..
you have a pretty stout engine build 500+ reliably should be no problem with the right supporting mods.
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[QUOTE=prsxr88;46886943]you have a pretty stout engine build 500+ reliably should be no problem with the right supporting mods.[/QUOTE

The only worry I have is if I put my turbo kit on to dis motor would I have any worry bout this motor won't handle my turbo????

Plus dis is my 2nd motor for boosting...so I'm new to turbo motor ..thats why I got this post up asking question..and see if my buddy telling me the truth on dis motor that its. Built for turbo...cuz I'm paying quite bit of cash for dis motor..
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And plus would I need to worry about the compression on this motor...for boosting..like I said I see different built turbo motor n most of them is with lower compression piston...
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Like I said, that compression ratio is perfectly fine for boost. You obviously aren't reading replies.
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idk about compression...what fuel u using? i went 9:5:1 to be on safe side
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Like I said, that compression ratio is perfectly fine for boost. You obviously aren't reading replies.
Would my turbo be to big for the set up or perfect. For it...and as for lb of boost what would this motor handle the its max...or would that depend on my tuner???

And Sry if I'm asking dumb question...and any good or bad advice that would help me a lot!!!
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Like I said, that compression ratio is perfectly fine for boost. You obviously aren't reading replies.
^this^

your sleeved. forged pistons & rods. your good to go man. sounds like a nice engine.
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idk about compression...what fuel u using? i went 9:5:1 to be on safe side
As for now I'm just planning on using my 680 cc on 93pump gas...but may look into maybe running on e85
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As for now I'm just planning on using my 680 cc on 93pump gas...but may look into maybe running on e85
your going to max those 680cc injectors very fast.
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your going to max those 680cc injectors very fast.
yea i think so too...im looking to get 1000cc injectorfor it...
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yea i think so too...im looking to get 1000cc injectorfor it...
good luck keep us updated
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good luck keep us updated
yea well do!!!! and for rpm limit..what rpm ill be able to rev it up top and reline at...he told me this motor will do 10k 10.5k no problem..head is full built so reving it up to that if fine??

and as for right now the motor in a eg with bolt one running as breaking in the motor...and he running the motor to 7200 rpm.. now
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yea well do!!!! and for rpm limit..what rpm ill be able to rev it up top and reline at...he told me this motor will do 10k 10.5k no problem..head is full built so reving it up to that if fine??

and as for right now the motor in a eg with bolt one running as breaking in the motor...and he running the motor to 7200 rpm.. now
i mean...what are you trying to do with this? why are you wanting to rev so high?
10k rpm's is up there...

edit : also, i see you say stock oil pump? will cavitate way before then
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i mean...what are you trying to do with this? why are you wanting to rev so high?
10k rpm's is up there...
my plan with this motor is to get around 450-500 plus whp out of it...but from what my guy said it can rev up to 10k no problem..
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my plan with this motor is to get around 450-500 plus whp out of it...but from what my guy said it can rev up to 10k no problem..
i realize that. but why do you want to rev that high? just to say you can?

everyone can say something...you won't be revving that high. there is also no point for you from what i can tell.
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i realize that. but why do you want to rev that high? just to say you can?

everyone can say something...you won't be revving that high. there is also no point for you from what i can tell.
so jw but what rev limit i should limit it out at on this motor n on my turbo im using..sc6176bb turbo..aka gt35R
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so jw but what rev limit i should limit it out at on this motor n on my turbo im using..sc6176bb turbo..aka gt35R
im not familiar on when that oil pump starts to cavitate. somone else would have to chime in for you. i would say 8500-8800 at most.8800 would be pushing it i think.
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im not familiar on when that oil pump starts to cavitate. somone else would have to chime in for you. i would say 8500-8800 at most.8800 would be pushing it i think.
What do you mean from oil pump starts to cavitate ???? And someone would have to chime in for you????
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What do you mean from oil pump starts to cavitate ???? And someone would have to chime in for you????
the pump will start to pump air and cause the oil to foam. becoming inaffective.

i don't know when your pump begins to do this so someone else will need to tell you that.
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just about the same engine that i have, but im at about 10:1 and 880 cc injectors. just a few things from me to you:

1- 680cc injectors are no where near enough. you can run upwards of 450whp on 93 pump gas (im doing 450 on 93) but not on 680s. if you want to run e85 i wouldnt use less than 1000's.

2- 8500 to 9000 rpms will be sufficient.

3 - get rid of those supertech valves and get some oem valves. supertech springs/retainers are amazing, their valves have a long history of breaking. search on it you will have nightmares.

4 - when the head is off replacing the valves put it back together with an oem or golden eagle headgasket, making sure to torque the headstuds to 25- 50- 80 ftlbs. you wont have any issues that way as long as the mating surfaces are true.

good luck, you've got a great starting platform


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