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Old 04-05-2004, 08:19 PM
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I need to find a nice medium sized turbo that is under $600, will spool up fast and not fall off up top. I'de like to see 8psi by 4 grand. A broad powerband is paramount. High horsepower is not because we are keeping a stock H22 block with just slightly oversized valves (+0.5mm). Exhaust will be 2.5" all the way back. Open WG dump. AFC hack and intank.

Would the Garrett T3/To4E with a stage 3, .82 A/R turbine and a 60 trim, .60 A/R compressor fit the bill? Would a .63 A/R tubine housing cause it to fall off up top too bad?
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I'm still seaching for a turbo for my h22a1, but I belive that this turbo your are specifing is a little large for the h22. But I only plan to have 330 whp. so the trim people have recomended to me is about 50.
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I agree. Seems a tad big for your goals. For for a To4e 50 trim.
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Default Re: What is the smallest turbo for a stock H22 that won't fall off up top...250-300whp (Bailhatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would the Garrett T3/To4E with a stage 3, .82 A/R turbine and a 60 trim, .60 A/R compressor fit the bill? Would a .63 A/R tubine housing cause it to fall off up top too bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would go with the .63 A/R, since anything above that will induce more lag. Or you might even want to take it another step down in A/R size since you're only shooting for 300whp.
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If you want 300whp I would look into running a t3/t04e with a 50 compressor trim and a .48 a/r. The spool times will be very fast with this turbo. With proper EMS you should be able to hit this around 14psi on a stock motor.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want 300whp I would look into running a t3/t04e with a 50 compressor trim and a .48 a/r. The spool times will be very fast with this turbo. With proper EMS you should be able to hit this around 14psi on a stock motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no go with a t3/t04e 57trim with a .82 turbine

PrecisionH23a have you ever drove a h22 with a .48 turbine ,it will not make any power pass vtec
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLB1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no go with a t3/t04e 57trim with a .82 turbine

PrecisionH23a have you ever drove a h22 with a .48 turbine ,it will not make any power pass vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>

.82 a/r? Can you say overkill with extreme amounts of lag? He wanted to know the smallest turbo to hit 300whp, and a 50/.48 is the smallest one. He also wanted a broad powerband, going with a .82a/r is not going to give the worlds best powerband and I doubt he will see 8psi by 4000rpms.

Personally I would go with a 57 comp and .63 a/r, but he quoted the smallest turbo possible. I actually have riden in an h22a with a 50/.48, the owner claimed to put out 260ish whp at 7psi and it seemed to pull just fine in vtec. Maybe you have some information that I have not seen. Feel free to share it
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Default Re: What is the smallest turbo for a stock H22 that won't fall off up top...250-300whp (Bailhatch)

T3/T04E (60 Trim with .63 A/R Turbine). Cheap turbo said it would hit 8 lbs. by 4200 at the latest. They guessed more around 3700 with my 10.6 compression. And it definately won't fall off in the top end either.

Here is a link: ($550) http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
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You guys are just throwing around turbine A/Rs, should I assume you are all talking about the ever popular stage 3 wheels? A .48 A/R turbine housing with a regular (stg 1?)wheel and a stg 5 are VERY different animals... fill me in.

Now i'm thinking 57 trim, .60 a/r comp and stg III, .63 a/r turbine. good for the goals I laid out? I see people with this turbo on b18s a lot but I hope it spools a little bit sooner on the H but with simular top end.
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Default Re: What is the smallest turbo for a stock H22 that won't fall off up top...250-300whp (Bailhatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys are just throwing around turbine A/Rs, should I assume you are all talking about the ever popular stage 3 wheels? A .48 A/R turbine housing with a regular (stg 1?)wheel and a stg 5 are VERY different animals... fill me in.

Now i'm thinking 57 trim, .60 a/r comp and stg III, .63 a/r turbine. good for the goals I laid out? I see people with this turbo on b18s a lot but I hope it spools a little bit sooner on the H but with simular top end. </TD></TR></TABLE>

60 trim, .60 a/r comp and stg III, .63 a/r turbine ($550) This is the exact turbo I have for my H22 setup. The 57 trim will be OK also, just flow a little less.

Did you check out the link I provided? It gave these exact specs. Of course a H22 will spool this turbo sooner then a B18, more displacement=more exhaust gas=faster spool. One more time on the link...

http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
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