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Old 04-19-2003, 10:24 PM
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what ratio fmu should i use on a turbo ls running like 12-13 psi, with 450cc dsm injectors and an afc. i have a 12-1 right now, just like to know around what range i should get. it will be tuned and everything. and no, im not doing an afc hack, i would rather just run the fmu
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (hybridb18)

Seems like a silly way to do it, but I'm pretty sure that a 6:1 would do the trick.
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (Hatchblack)

the car will idle/run terrible with an FMU and 450's. get an Uberchip for the same price as an FMU.
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (hybridb18)

hoiw would that be a silly way to do it, i would run the 450's and fmu, and use the safc to tune it out, seems easier than an afc hack where u gotta mess with the ignition timing
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (hybridb18)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hoiw would that be a silly way to do it, i would run the 450's and fmu, and use the safc to tune it out, seems easier than an afc hack where u gotta mess with the ignition timing</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah it would be fine with that setup and 12:1
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hoiw would that be a silly way to do it, i would run the 450's and fmu, and use the safc to tune it out, seems easier than an afc hack where u gotta mess with the ignition timing</TD></TR></TABLE>

isn't this the same thing as a hack??!!
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (shermanyang)

no you use no FMU with the hack
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the whole reason you get 450 injectors is so you can run without the fmu isnt it?? so they will supply enough fuel on their own then use an vafc or something to piggyback it??
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so ur saying i still would need to run the 12-1 fmu with the 450cc? i was thinking like 6-1 or 8-1.. I think the 12-1 is overkill on 450cc
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (hybridvteceg)

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...ard=6

anyone who doesnt know about the 450cc dsm's and the afc hack theres some good info here.
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (hybridb18)

I think a 4:1 would be right. I use a 4:1 with my 370s and add fuel with my e-manage. A 6:1 should be right for 370s
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (p0gi)

What is it with people and these things... the whole reason for the hack is to elimate the high pressure raising rate regulator (FMU) and to tune it using some sort of fuel controler.
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (twkdCD595)

Did you read that he said he wasnt using the hack?
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (hybridb18)

what turbo are u using ? i'm curious.

but yeah try 4 or 6:1 that should get u the fuel. get a high pressure pump if u don't have one.

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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (p0gi)

your right I should have read more... I just got to fmu and thought about it before finishing.

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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (twkdCD595)

I say a 6:1

here's how I calculated it 12 * 240 = 2880, 2880 / 450 = 6.1

12 = recomended setting w/ stock injectors, and 240 is injector size, along with 450

another benefit is that the fuel pressures will only be half as high as the 12:1 setup

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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (p0gi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0gi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you read that he said he wasnt using the hack?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If he wasn't using the hack then why is he using 450cc injectors?!?! Theres no need!!
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Wouldnt you be better off using the hack and the 450's with no FMU?
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (swlabhot)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swlabhot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If he wasn't using the hack then why is he using 450cc injectors?!?! Theres no need!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why dont you read his post where he said " AND NO IM NOT USING THE HACK"
Doesnt anybody read the complete post anymore?
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (p0gi)

High fuel pressures = bad Mmmmmkay?

AFC hack = enough fuel, stock fuel pressures, everyone happy

But *if* you're so stuck on using the FMU with those 450's, try something higher than 6:1...reason being: you want to be SAFE than sorry! But then again, I don't know how safe you'll be with an FMU in the first place... LOL! It's a new oxymoron!
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Default Re: what ratio fmu with 450cc dsm injectors, I did a search, nothing! (98CTRCoupe)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98CTRCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">High fuel pressures = bad Mmmmmkay?

AFC hack = enough fuel, stock fuel pressures, everyone happy

But *if* you're so stuck on using the FMU with those 450's, try something higher than 6:1...reason being: you want to be SAFE than sorry! But then again, I don't know how safe you'll be with an FMU in the first place... LOL! It's a new oxymoron! </TD></TR></TABLE>
FMUs are always safe...
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