what do we think about the fp-30 turbo?
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what do we think about the fp-30 turbo?
my friend just bought it for his dsm and it looks sweet and huge. just thought i would see if anyone has been to http://www.Forcedperformance.net . it uses the gt30 garret concepts. i think the exhaust housing is cool cause the wastegate can be mounted on it, its a clean setup. cheak it out, they kinda diss us hondas though.
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Re: what do we think about the fp-30 turbo? (MiraiZ)
who cares about price right know but i think that is a sweet turbo, my friend says that it is better than my sc-61 turbo that im going to buy. he is awd and will probally kill me on the street, kinda sucks cause i like to be top dog over my friends ya know.
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Re: what do we think about the fp-30 turbo? (gcajnr2121)
I have a couple friends with the green and red model forced performance turbos on their dsms and they love them. They make good power and do it decently quick. The fp30s are the big daddys of the dsm world. You need major work done to the motor and from what I hear you have to go standalone to be able to run it. It is a crazy turbo, and yes Forced Performance isn't cheap but they know there **** and will help you all day with any questions you have.
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Re: what do we think about the fp-30 turbo? (88ZCRX)
it would be cool if they made some turbos for hondas like that fp-30, they are the cleanest turbo i have seen in real life. what do you guys think of their turbos?
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Re: what do we think about the fp-30 turbo? (gcajnr2121)
FP is really well known in the dsm crowd...shepard is running one of there turbos (fully custom though, but still)...that turbo is badass too, just costs alot.
i opted for a t3/60-1 on my dsm, but if i had the money thats the turbo ide be running
i opted for a t3/60-1 on my dsm, but if i had the money thats the turbo ide be running
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Re: what do we think about the fp-30 turbo? (gcajnr2121)
have your buddy look at this post and see if still thinks the fp30 will kill the sc61.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=554326
also notice the fp3065 which is the most expensive of the fp30's made 559whp@30psi. my sc63 made 559 at 8lbs less boost. it is a honda compared to a DSM but still shouldnt be off that far. the torque is nuts though!!!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=554326
also notice the fp3065 which is the most expensive of the fp30's made 559whp@30psi. my sc63 made 559 at 8lbs less boost. it is a honda compared to a DSM but still shouldnt be off that far. the torque is nuts though!!!
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Dejon's results on that turbo are really not all that exciting. Tym at BR has made 820 WHP on a similar turbo, and I know several people that have made over 500 whp with just the FP red.
FP is known for overpricing turbos.
This turbo is NOT for a street car, and not for every race car at that. There is absolutely NO reason to get something this big unless you want to run single-digit ET's.
FP is known for overpricing turbos.
This turbo is NOT for a street car, and not for every race car at that. There is absolutely NO reason to get something this big unless you want to run single-digit ET's.
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Re: what do we think about the fp-30 turbo? (gcajnr2121)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gcajnr2121 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it would be cool if they made some turbos for hondas like that fp-30, they are the cleanest turbo i have seen in real life. what do you guys think of their turbos?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I already upgraded the Greddy 18g to a 20g but I'm going to go FP Green in Feb. And yes you can use those turbos on Honda's
Well I already upgraded the Greddy 18g to a 20g but I'm going to go FP Green in Feb. And yes you can use those turbos on Honda's
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Casey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend/guy i know runs one on his built dsm, the fp3065. His car makes 443whp at 20psi on pump gas, and has yet to be tuned at 35 psi on race gas. It ran an 11.6 at 118mph with a 1.8 60'. Btw, he drives it daily, on the street </TD></TR></TABLE>
again they are not making the power precision turbo makes.i made 450@15psi on a 63mm PT. maybe its just a motor issue. hondas do make more power in general than dsms do.
again they are not making the power precision turbo makes.i made 450@15psi on a 63mm PT. maybe its just a motor issue. hondas do make more power in general than dsms do.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMatrix.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
again they are not making the power precision turbo makes.i made 450@15psi on a 63mm PT. maybe its just a motor issue. hondas do make more power in general than dsms do. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Completely Apples to Oranges or Watermelons on engines at least! The Precisions are great turbos true but they ARE a Garrett based turbo using Garrett wheels but their own housings But also Forced Performance(Fp?) also uses Garrett wheels and turbos. I am not knocking any turbos at all but most are Garrett wheels and /or housings etc etc. Well at least until Art puts the magic touch on the Precisions
again they are not making the power precision turbo makes.i made 450@15psi on a 63mm PT. maybe its just a motor issue. hondas do make more power in general than dsms do. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Completely Apples to Oranges or Watermelons on engines at least! The Precisions are great turbos true but they ARE a Garrett based turbo using Garrett wheels but their own housings But also Forced Performance(Fp?) also uses Garrett wheels and turbos. I am not knocking any turbos at all but most are Garrett wheels and /or housings etc etc. Well at least until Art puts the magic touch on the Precisions
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Casey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend/guy i know runs one on his built dsm, the fp3065. His car makes 443whp at 20psi on pump gas, and has yet to be tuned at 35 psi on race gas. It ran an 11.6 at 118mph with a 1.8 60'. Btw, he drives it daily, on the street </TD></TR></TABLE>
Again, not impressive. I know of several people who have run similar times, put down similar power, and trapped at similar speeds, with turbos like the FP Green or other variants of it. To make that little power on the supposedly "so cool" FP3065 is not exciting at all.
Also, to use a FP Green on a honda is VERY silly. The only reason the Green exists, is so that we DSM'ers can bolt a true Garrett turbo to the DSM manifold and exhaust. In return for this, we pay a VERY large premium over the standard Garrett turbo with the 50 trim compressor wheel, which has the same power potential as a green.
There is no reason why you should buy a 1300 dollar FP Green, when you can get a regular Garrett turbo for not much more than half that.
Again, not impressive. I know of several people who have run similar times, put down similar power, and trapped at similar speeds, with turbos like the FP Green or other variants of it. To make that little power on the supposedly "so cool" FP3065 is not exciting at all.
Also, to use a FP Green on a honda is VERY silly. The only reason the Green exists, is so that we DSM'ers can bolt a true Garrett turbo to the DSM manifold and exhaust. In return for this, we pay a VERY large premium over the standard Garrett turbo with the 50 trim compressor wheel, which has the same power potential as a green.
There is no reason why you should buy a 1300 dollar FP Green, when you can get a regular Garrett turbo for not much more than half that.
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i would never run one. i know i could make more power w. an external wastegate, custom mani, and any large turbo...and still make it under the mark of one of those fp's
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Gonna clear the air about some things here. The FP30's come with bolt on mitsu housings and garrett style housings. The FP3065 is actually a Garrett GT3040 ball bearing. It uses the same compressor as the SC61. The GT40 56 trim. The same turbo from cheapturbo.com is $35 more at $1475. So they are comparably priced to turbos of their size.
The bolt on turbos that PTE sells for DSM are $995 for the non BB unit. The BB option is within a few dollars of the FP turbos. They come with and without the internal gates. 600whp has been realized on the SC61 with an internal gate. Do I like internal gates... I think I'll stick with my Tial 46.
The PTE turbos make just as much power as the FP turbos do. The SC61 has made well over 600whp on more than 5 street driven DSM's. Just ask Martin at AMS about their first experience with the 61. That dyno sheet from pruven doesnt mean crap. As you can see, Dan made that dyno run in June of last year before Robert even got the turbos perfected as to how he hould set them up. This year, Brian Wilson has already made 510whp and 445lb/ft of torque on the little FP3055 (55 lb GT compressor) @ only 27 psi. Most DSM guys dont run compression as high as the honda guys for some reason so we need more boost to make the power.
I'm a honda guy from back in the day. Tony1 probably remembers me driving down from AR all the time to get him to hlep me with my turbo GSR. Now I am building a 2.4L 97 GSX so I have been in the high HP shoes on both sides of the fence. My GSR made 479whp @ 29psi and the 2.0L version of the car I am building now has made 473whp @ 27 psi. Both were/are street cars and both maintained PS and AC. If you wanna check out the 2.4 project, just hit the link to my site.
Robert, Brian, Scott and the others at FP know what they are doing. They are one reason that John Shepherds car is so rediculously fast and still looks more like a street car than anything in its class. By the way, last weekend at E town he ran 9.22 @ 157 on the same engine he has been running since last year no tear downs.
I guess I'm just getting way off topic here. Anyway, if there is a point to this at all, I guess its that you should give Robert a call about building a turbo for your application. They are fairly priced and good guys in general. And that work is boring today and I needed something to do so I typed all this crap.
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The bolt on turbos that PTE sells for DSM are $995 for the non BB unit. The BB option is within a few dollars of the FP turbos. They come with and without the internal gates. 600whp has been realized on the SC61 with an internal gate. Do I like internal gates... I think I'll stick with my Tial 46.
The PTE turbos make just as much power as the FP turbos do. The SC61 has made well over 600whp on more than 5 street driven DSM's. Just ask Martin at AMS about their first experience with the 61. That dyno sheet from pruven doesnt mean crap. As you can see, Dan made that dyno run in June of last year before Robert even got the turbos perfected as to how he hould set them up. This year, Brian Wilson has already made 510whp and 445lb/ft of torque on the little FP3055 (55 lb GT compressor) @ only 27 psi. Most DSM guys dont run compression as high as the honda guys for some reason so we need more boost to make the power.
I'm a honda guy from back in the day. Tony1 probably remembers me driving down from AR all the time to get him to hlep me with my turbo GSR. Now I am building a 2.4L 97 GSX so I have been in the high HP shoes on both sides of the fence. My GSR made 479whp @ 29psi and the 2.0L version of the car I am building now has made 473whp @ 27 psi. Both were/are street cars and both maintained PS and AC. If you wanna check out the 2.4 project, just hit the link to my site.
Robert, Brian, Scott and the others at FP know what they are doing. They are one reason that John Shepherds car is so rediculously fast and still looks more like a street car than anything in its class. By the way, last weekend at E town he ran 9.22 @ 157 on the same engine he has been running since last year no tear downs.
I guess I'm just getting way off topic here. Anyway, if there is a point to this at all, I guess its that you should give Robert a call about building a turbo for your application. They are fairly priced and good guys in general. And that work is boring today and I needed something to do so I typed all this crap.
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