What cams are best for lots of boost?
11-06-2008, 11:16 PM
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What cams are best for lots of boost?
I have a fully built gsr that im trying to finish. I want to know what cams i should use? I have a ported and polished head with all freara valve train. I would like to boost about 30 lbs or so and have new skunk2 pro 2s but have herd they are not the best ones for my build. just wanted to know what you guys thought?
11-07-2008, 06:58 AM
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Re: What cams are best for lots of boost? (Blown90hatcH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blown90hatcH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What turbo, turbo manifold, fuel setup, etc.....
Still a street car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
People need to quit suggesting **** until they know answers to questions like the ones above. You can't give very accurate suggestions if you dont know what kind of setup you're working with...
Still a street car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
People need to quit suggesting **** until they know answers to questions like the ones above. You can't give very accurate suggestions if you dont know what kind of setup you're working with...
11-07-2008, 07:04 AM
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Re: What cams are best for lots of boost? (Schister66)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
People need to quit suggesting **** until they know answers to questions like the ones above. You can't give very accurate suggestions if you dont know what kind of setup you're working with...</TD></TR></TABLE>
No doubt..... classic honda-tech though
One search in FI section for "cams" pulled up a very helpful thread the OP was looking for.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The skunk2 tuner series stage 1 cams work really really well. They are a bit bigger than the itr/ctr, make about 20-30whp more, are easy on the valve train/rockers (which alot of people dont take into consideration) and have stock idle/drivability and usually require no cam gear adjustments (as long as block/head have not been milled severely). The stage 1s seem to work well with turbos as small as the gt28rs and larger (just used them on a s372 and picked up ridiculous power over gsr's)
The skunk2 tuner series stage 2 cams work well from the two cars that i have used them on. Picked up 70whp over itr/ctr cams at higher boost levels. Are a bit harder on valvetrain/rocker wear, have stock idle and drivability. I would not run these for anything less than a gt35r sized turbo.
The skunk2 pro 1 cams are great. They need to be degreed in to idle/work properly. These cams usually pick up a little more midrange than the tuner series in boost (i.e make the turbo spool a little sooner). The idle/drivabilty is a bit harsher than stock, but once degreed and tuned its not that bad. Valvetrain wear is not bad with them either. I have seen gains of 40-50whp over itr/ctr cams with them. The pro 1s seem to work well in gt35r + sized turbos.
The skunk2 pro 2 cams are I feel too large for a turbo application. I have tested them on gt42r/s372 sized turbos and lost power over the itr/ctr cams. There was significant midrange gains with them compared to the itr/ctr cams, but there was about 60-70 whp peak power loss. The cams were degreed into the engines properly.
When picking a cam, think about valvetrain wear and seat pressure. Alot of the aftermarket springs do not have the seat pressure to run a higher lift all motor cam, as well as 20-40 psi of boost pressure. Also, the biggest cam does not always work. Its a compromise. I have been using skunk2 products for awhile now, and I would not even think about using another companies cams for the b or h series engines. The reliability, durability and power are awesome.
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OP, sell those pro2s!
People need to quit suggesting **** until they know answers to questions like the ones above. You can't give very accurate suggestions if you dont know what kind of setup you're working with...</TD></TR></TABLE>
No doubt..... classic honda-tech though
One search in FI section for "cams" pulled up a very helpful thread the OP was looking for.
Spoon fed version
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The skunk2 tuner series stage 1 cams work really really well. They are a bit bigger than the itr/ctr, make about 20-30whp more, are easy on the valve train/rockers (which alot of people dont take into consideration) and have stock idle/drivability and usually require no cam gear adjustments (as long as block/head have not been milled severely). The stage 1s seem to work well with turbos as small as the gt28rs and larger (just used them on a s372 and picked up ridiculous power over gsr's)
The skunk2 tuner series stage 2 cams work well from the two cars that i have used them on. Picked up 70whp over itr/ctr cams at higher boost levels. Are a bit harder on valvetrain/rocker wear, have stock idle and drivability. I would not run these for anything less than a gt35r sized turbo.
The skunk2 pro 1 cams are great. They need to be degreed in to idle/work properly. These cams usually pick up a little more midrange than the tuner series in boost (i.e make the turbo spool a little sooner). The idle/drivabilty is a bit harsher than stock, but once degreed and tuned its not that bad. Valvetrain wear is not bad with them either. I have seen gains of 40-50whp over itr/ctr cams with them. The pro 1s seem to work well in gt35r + sized turbos.
The skunk2 pro 2 cams are I feel too large for a turbo application. I have tested them on gt42r/s372 sized turbos and lost power over the itr/ctr cams. There was significant midrange gains with them compared to the itr/ctr cams, but there was about 60-70 whp peak power loss. The cams were degreed into the engines properly.
When picking a cam, think about valvetrain wear and seat pressure. Alot of the aftermarket springs do not have the seat pressure to run a higher lift all motor cam, as well as 20-40 psi of boost pressure. Also, the biggest cam does not always work. Its a compromise. I have been using skunk2 products for awhile now, and I would not even think about using another companies cams for the b or h series engines. The reliability, durability and power are awesome.
</TD></TR></TABLE>OP, sell those pro2s!
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11-07-2008, 09:17 AM
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Not running a roller set up! Still dont have a fuel pump and i have rc 1000s. Im getting a ramhorn manifold and have a gt35r. Im wanting to sell the pro 2s and go to some other cams because you guys say that they are to big for the build. thanks for the info this is my first big time build on a b motor and any bit is helpful
11-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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Re: (turboD_EG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboD_EG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not running a roller set up! Still dont have a fuel pump and i have rc 1000s. Im getting a ramhorn manifold and have a gt35r. Im wanting to sell the pro 2s and go to some other cams because you guys say that they are to big for the build. thanks for the info this is my first big time build on a b motor and any bit is helpful</TD></TR></TABLE>
For that setup....either ITR cams or Skunk2 Tuner stage 1.
For that setup....either ITR cams or Skunk2 Tuner stage 1.
11-08-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flint707
Tony Palo went 8.97 in the 1/4 mile and he's running Skunk2 Pro 1's, if that helps you at all.
11-08-2008, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flint707
Tony Palo went 8.97 in the 1/4 mile and he's running Skunk2 Pro 1's, if that helps you at all.
As mentioned before it all depends on turbo size, manifold design, motor displacement etc.
11-08-2008, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
Not if he's strictly a street or street/strip setup. Tony P is using those on a dedicated drag strip car. Therefore This more than likely does not apply to the OP.
11-09-2008, 05:09 PM
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Re: (TheShodan)
Originally Posted by TheShodan
Not if he's strictly a street or street/strip setup. Tony P is using those on a dedicated drag strip car. Therefore This more than likely does not apply to the OP.
The Tony P. thing was merely an analogy
^^ stop it. Find out what the OP is using for his build first.
12-07-2008, 10:18 AM
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I am well aware that Tony Palo has a dedicated drag car, however the op is talking about boosting 30 lbs which does not sound to be much of a street car. The Pro 2's will have too much overlap seeing is how they are n/a cams and too much overlap in a turbo car will rob you of power. Pro 1's ftw!
The Tony P. thing was merely an analogy
The Tony P. thing was merely an analogy
I understand your point of reference, but your analogy was imprecise if not awkward at best.
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